Why on earth would I tell you any of that? None of it is relevant to my argument or stance.
Try again, I am waiting.
Because it will show how competent you are. All these parameters i have listed above show how much time you have invested in pvp. The more you play - more you suffer this s hit you want to stay in the game just for a #nochange crap.
Right now i see a clueless 111 lvl draenei warrior.
None of your parameters measure ones knowledge when it comes to how the playerbase will respond to such a sudden change.
My stance isnāt about what it better or worse for myself. My stance is about the aftermath of such a drastic change to the game and ecosystem.
If all you see is clueless, stop looking in a mirror. Again, I say:
No one will miss the r14 real money paid agency of Gehennas and other big servers boosting players in premades. The majority of playerbase choose pugging. By letting things stay as they are right now you are gating more people from pvp content than you could by isolating premades.
If the majority of your games are against premades, that means the majority of players choose premading.
Inaccurate, of course. The majority of people choose the fastest and most efficient route to their goal; PVP honor gear in this case. The most efficient route being premades. (It was formerly AV farming)
By changing things, you open up an easy route to the current best possible gear; something people slate retail for, incidently. You also open up the possibility of bots being able to compete for honor, you make it nigh-impossible for people to play with friends and furthermore: youāre discouraging team play in an MMORPG.
Things are as they are now because of changes. Things will change again soon without any interference from Blizzard simply because the gear gets outscaled. Once the gear is no longer BiS, the demand for it will be lower.
When the demand is lower, less people will be efficiently farming for it. When people arenāt efficiently farming, theyāre not hardcore premading.
It doesnāt mean the majority of players choose premading. It means you sad pathetic people have turned them off PVP entirely. The premade situation is toxic for PVP, you have to be deluded to not see that.
Clearly this troll benefits from the system in itās current form hiding behind nochanges.
Itās almost like I said:
Perhaps one should read the comment to which he is responding?
If I benefitted from something; why would I hide?
And no actually, I would personally benefit from a seperate queue; Iād have a much easier time getting honor if such a queue existed. But my stances and beliefs arenāt based around what benefits me, but what is better for the game as a whole.
If thatās the best you can do then you should probably hold off on using words like ātrollā.
And lastly; if you donāt like the way that people play classic, play something else. Donāt demand that a game be changed to cater to you.
Well there are still people q solo, so it is about luck : will you face 5 premades in a row or play 3 pug vs pug games and 2 against premade for example.
You still can rank up solo - i am an example of that. So saying that it will open the door for easier grinding the bis items is false. It is just the matter of time. Premades cap faster (in terms of honor), but solo players are still able to cap too.
Using a bot problem as an argumentā¦ meh. Same as a solo q grinding with account sharing. No one cares really. Botting is banable - it is against the rules. Not a classic wow specific problem. And bots help people to achieve high ranks right now too (in a premade meta) so it doesnāt matter.
Stop valueing r13-r14 items as something godlike. Value your time spent in the game and the amount of fun you had during your pvp activity. Both sides (premades and pugs) in their hearts hate onesided games. Carrying 3 flags on wsg on an empty field against a ghosting team or a 5 capped ab with 0 resistance - is not what people are dreaming of.
Not easily or efficiently and you certainly canāt do it via AFK leeching like the old AV meta.
Not false. youād have an easier time in solo queue and you know it.
The cap is whatever the highest rankers set it as. If you open up a solo queue, the cap then changes to higher than whatever the best bot can leech.
Botting is bannable and bots do eventually get banned, but the damage will be done before then. One bot can add an extra week to somebodyās rank grind, the damage then will have been done whether the bot gets banned or not.
Itās not what I value, I donāt care about them. But people play Classic WAY more competitively than what people played Vanilla, and those items are currently BiS. The weapons for fury DPS are still BiS in AQ40.
Playing competitively IS fun for people, some people enjoy being the best they can and performing at their maximum. Classic isnāt like Vanilla, youāre not a badass for being able to complete content here; itās all puggable.
Instead, competition is based on speed. Your guild rank is now based on how fast you can clear the content.
Speaking for alliance here. It cannot be that you are only able to play arathi/warsong in the early mornings up to like 1 p.m to not face a bunch of premades and then go back to AV which is clearly a 95% loss and your only hope is a turle or lts kill game for honor. And I would assume that horde has the same issue because all they can do is AV but sit in an hour que before even joining.
The only days I found to be playable in warsong and arathi basin are monday/tuesday, most likely because said premades already capped their weeks honor or whatever. This cant be. I like pvp but its no fun facing a premade and losing a game in 7minutes.
Nothing to do with pvp nor is it healthy for the game.
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45 sec.
5 minutes might be so in retail.
But Iāve come to realize the same thing as i many others here. You are beyond reach and common sense. So no point in trying to talk sense to a troll.
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I havenāt actually been in any battlegrounds where the game has abruptly ended because of lack of players, so I assumed it would be 5 minutes. Thereās no mention of the timer anywhere on the internet.
The closest thing I can find is this:
"Warsong Gulch is a multiple instance zone hosting a Capture the Flag style match for 10 on 10 level bracketed PvP action. Each side needs at least 5 players or the game will end after 5 minutes. "
https://classic-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Warsong_Gulch
That was updated to WoTLK however. Unfortunately thatās all I could find after 10-15 minutes of looking.
Regardless:
You canāt āteachā me ācommon senseā because you arenāt using any yourself. Youāre trying to tell me that I should be all for a seperate queue because it would make you happy, as if youāre somehow important to me.
What you want and what you ask for are dangerous to the game as a whole, and your threats of AFKing out of games arenāt going to get you anywhere: except a deserter debuff.
If people donāt play the way you want; play a different game. Simple.
Seems like Miylee gets paid extra today. CanĀ“t wait for him to log on his classic character Bodiesan to agree with his own opinion. Never forget that its the same guy that cried the whole day because of AV premades and wanted the system changed. Damn I love hypocrites.
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Basically what i got from this post is that people who do premaddes support them and those who dont wanna see them stop. But yeah i am in the same position as you but horde has it worse .
Yet the two most vocal āanti seperate queueā people are me and Bodiesan; neither of us premade.
So whatever information you extrapolated was wrong.
Do you play horde? i dont think alliance have it as bad as us, you might get premades but i dont think you get 8-9 in a row
It doesnāt matter who has it āworseā when I donāt care for the āproblemā.
if you dont care for the problem why post here? we are here because we facce this problem constantly and want it to stop
Iām here because youāre trying to change the game, thus CREATING a problem for me.
When I say I donāt care for the problem, I mean it isnāt a problem. If you donāt like the way people play, donāt play. Itās a you problem and not a game one.
Its a me problem? have you read how many people are against this? and if it doesnt affect you then why even post here.