Premades should be stopped

thats just wrong. its time and day dependant. as already said you can only play at mornings until like 1 p.m even as alliance and when you still are going to que arathi basin, you will face premades up to 10 times in a row. you can only properly play it on monday and tuesday due to the rankers being honorcapped by then.

I literally just said it does affect me.

And it doesn’t matter how many people are against premades. A lot of people were against Classic in general. The reality is simple, if you don’t like the way that people play the game, don’t play it.

Classic is a niche game with a niche playerbase, it wasn’t made to appease everyone. You shouldn’t change a niche game to try and make it suitable for more people.

Trying to make the game suitable for everyone is exactly what made retail what it is now.

You know nothing about me and the time i have put in this game, stop implying like i am a new player. Its simple if you dont like what we are saying here go spend your time in another thread mate.

I made no such implication. I said: If you don’t like the way people play this game, you shouldn’t be playing.

Do you, or do you not like the way people play this game?

That’s not how this board works. If I’m dead opposed to somebody’s change and whatever motives lead them to demand such change, I’m going to argue. As I’d expect others to do with me.

You cant rank up solo on servers like gehennas. Also i dont know why people cry so much about not being able to premade… its not like it has a huge barrier to entry. Started premading at r3 with a 60% and only 3 items from raids. Did roughly 10 warsongs, didnt lose a game. Had some nice games vs premades, was fun.

Its Hordes own fault… your cried to the small indy companie that it was unfair that Alliance did premades in AV, so they removed the option, so all rankers are doing AB and WSG… Horde is winning 98% of all AV´s but now AB and WSG is flooded with premades… You reap what you sow

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Well then now they should apply this to WSG and AB, why should some have it easier than others? and in WSG its so much worse than AB cause not only do you get stomped they farm you at GY till you walk away and not spawn and basically give them the game with no resistance? is this supposed to be how the game is played?

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No, it’s not. But all the people arguing in favor of it are the people who are doing it. Do you really think the people who spend their whole day in the forums to argue for premades do it for a greater cause? Of course not. People like Bodiesan (or his retail character Miylee) are scared that they would have to play real games in the future instead of being able to dodge other premades and farm pugs on the graveyard. They hide behind #nochanges here but as already mentioned by many they personally made threads to ask for changes that would benefit them. He even made a thread where he argued that people who played premades in AV should be banned although it was possible in Vanilla. They couldn´t care less about changes. They just want things that benefit them. The current premade situation is destroying the game for a lot of players and has nothing to do with how things were in Vanilla. Thats the reason the majority is in favor of premade vs premade queues.

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Bodiesan and miylee are the same :o lol

Of course not.

Rutaler is literally trolling, as per usual. The sooner he gets banned again, the better.

I agree. Blizzard should separate premades from solo queue so that people who only want to solo queue and enjoy the game for just some casual BG-ing could still have fun and they don’t have to suffer from the min-maxing tryhard honor farmer premades.

but sometimes i just want play random game. Its pretty hard find pug vs pug game :frowning:

You should see how it is at the beggining of the rest , there are just premades on premades on premades no pug in sight

As much as I really dislike premades stomping pugs all day long that is a Personal opinion

I really think changes should be made for the health of the game I think they should introduce MMR and link bonus honor gains to it that way yes u will still come across premades now and then but with them winning so much it will get to the point that they will be so high MMR that they will face similar skilled premades.

if u get to the top of MMR list ur gains will be worth the effort people who solo will generally have lower MMR so will probably have a higher chance to find similar skilled teams or bad premades but u won’t see the honor gain of some of the hardcore players

Anyone that doesn’t agree ether just want to stomp players who have no chance or are scared to face the challenge of someone at your level of play

This wouldnt be a bad but its just basicallt rbgs you just described which are introduced later on, this case it should just be premade vs premade and let them duke it out . But the pug vs premade not only should be stopped i think people should be punished, like i started my solo farm today and i am at 500 honor after 3 games because i keep getting premades that stomp me.

Then get good and beat them. If you lose so much, it seems like a clear l2p issue to me.

Oh yes the l2p statement you must be one of those elitist i have heard about, please enlighten me how this phrase makes me beat premades. Maybe this is all i needed all this time to some1 explain how the phrase “l2p” will help my pug team beat an organised premade team.

playing as a pug is clear sign of a noob

Wait what? Do you want people to be punished for playing group pvp in a group and using the queue as intended and as desinged?

WSG/AB have never had a separate pug queue to this day… They added party size limit in MoP and matchmaking to match pugs etc more evenly but there have never existed a solo queue like people ask for.

Do you remember when Brack said “you think you do, but you don’t”. He was talking to people like you.

Apologies had to comment on this… Dude you are dreaming if you make this kind of statement.

In TBC a small thing called Resilience will come into play. Everyone will be forced to go into arena’s to get the best pvp gear, then ofc most of the people that currently premade will get found out.

100% this forum will then switch to class balance.

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