[Priest] Suggestion : Remove Holy & Disc

Dear healer priest colleagues,

I m tired to see so many time season after season holy and disc spec fighting against each other about balance and viability

We are the only class with 2 healing spec, thats kind of stupid and create more unbalancing.

In m+ even holy priest need to dps for help so the “duuh i m not disc i m not supposed to dps” doesnt work

I suggest and propose to DELETE Holy and Discipline and meege into one spec

We dont really need 3 specs, there are only 2 ways : heal and dps

Demon hunters have also only 2 specs and there is no issue with.

I asked to chatgpt about the new name :

ChatGPT said :

ChatGPT

If the “Holy” and “Discipline” specializations for the Priest in World of Warcraft were to be merged into one, the name of the new specialization could reflect a balance between both aspects of healing—compassionate healing (Holy) and damage mitigation (Discipline). Some possible names could be:

  1. Sacred Restoration – This combines the sense of holiness with the restorative function of healing.
  2. Divine Aegis – “Divine” for the holy aspect, and “Aegis” meaning protection or shield, which aligns with the discipline focus.
  3. Celestial Guard – A name that suggests both healing and protection, with “Celestial” evoking divine power.
  4. Ethereal Benevolence – Combining ethereal healing energy with the benevolent, protective nature of the priest.
  5. Vigilant Grace – This could capture both healing and defensive vigilance, reflecting the dual purpose of the combined specialization.

The name should capture both aspects of the priest class—compassionate healing and proactive defense against damage.

What do you think guys?

I m up for Divine Aegis :elf:

I think people need to stop using ChatGPT as you’re only speeding up our inevitable demise.

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I think disc and holy as so different that they can both exist.

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The funny thing is, out of all the things that didn’t happen, this didn’t happen the most. Since DF S2, not once, in the tens of thousands of m+ runs, was any healer asked to do damage.

It’s fascinating, really.

Indeed.

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Discipline redesigned as a Support specialization. The same should happen to the following specializations too:

A new 3rd specialization for Demon Hunters
Either Arcane or Frost Μage
Survival Hunter
Outlaw replaced by Bard specialization
Enhancement Shaman
Either Affliction or Demonology Warlock

This would bring the game to 6 tank, 6 healer, 8 support and 20 damage specializations, and no class would be locked to 1 single role.

And then also add a 4th specialization for shamans as tank because why not.

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i think both can exist .the only thing blizzard needs to do and should do is to make holy priest viable again .the current band aid that they are coming up with will not fix holy priest in thousand years

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My friends.

I play since 2005 and I (and other olds players too) guarantee you this :

Blizzard devs dont know what “balance” word means.

There is no hope for balance in WoW

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Welcome to WoW I guess ?

What do you think Rogues (for example) have to live through with 3 DD specs ? Or Druids, with 2 DD specs ?

And your suggestion will solve nothing. Because you still compete with SP specs for a Priest slot.

You want ONE priest for PI and Fortitude. The question is which one ? SP, DP or Holy ? Whichever is most OP. And if ALL 3 are bad, the question is are they bad enough to justify loosing PI and Fortitude ?

That is the TLDR of the situation. It has more nuiances for example who covers for the lack of a kick and things like that. But its the general gig.

In your suggestion, you would be choosing between SP and “Divine Aegis”. You will be back here saying that Divine Aegis is not balanced properly against other healers because you compete with SP.

Let me just remind you what happened this season: RShaman was meta healer with PWarrior tank. But then, PPala got reworked and now could tank. However PPala is orders of magnitude better at CCing and kicking than a warrior. So what happened ?

Healer meta switched from RShaman to DPriest overnight, even though RShaman heals for MORE than DPriest. And with ZERO balance tuning on either of those specs. Why ? Because PI and Fortitude, and 1 rework of a tank.

And who brings the cool cap totem and kicks of RShaman ? Enh shaman. So RShaman is competing with other DD specs as well. And so are you, because the day they buff SP just a little bit, the meta will shift to another healer. Druid or Monk for example.

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With 100% honesty.

I m holy priest, all the time and i hate Dpriest.

But actually if I m not the healer and need to create q m+ group.

2 choices, h and d priest player in queue.

I ll not choose the holy…

Look at me : This season (and apparently the next season) I have 2 options…

  • Sit in quews all day
  • Reroll to Enh shaman. A DD spec.

And for the whole of DF I had 2 options really:

  • Sit in quews all day
  • Reroll a different class all toguether.

I chose to stay with RShaman. But it comes at a price. There will always be a meta, and nothing Blizzard can do will change that fact.

YOU want Holy to be meta so you get invited. Which means that 5 other healer specs wont get invited. Its not only unfair, but impossible to acheive.

Be happy that you have atleast 1 spec that is meta. All other classes are not as lucky and have ZERO meta specs. So whatever spec they play they are guaranteed to wait in quew. But it is what it is. You can only have 5 classes that are meta, no more, no less.

But given that you have been playing since 2005 like me, I wonder why you havent made peace with that fact yet.

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You’re right.

Disc should be a Tank spec, Mace+Shield wielding Clerics!

I’ve hated Disc since its revamp into a dps healer… I miss the spamming bubbler :cry:

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Its called paladin :dracthyr_crylaugh:

Pft, I want the sweatband bandana wearing robed monk/cleric. :stuck_out_tongue:

This. People are substituting using their own brains for AI slop and it’s just depressing.

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Same here. Sigh.

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Holy priest is the real healer
Disc is just support spec
Shadow is damage with some “cope” healing for party

Having two healing specs is the priests advantage over other healers. It means you have more options and chances that some of them is good. Unlike my rdruid and rshaman which both have been bad this season in pvp. Same reason why pure dps class with three specs is wiser choise on long run over hybrid with one spec if people would play only one class.

Pft, I honestly wished I main’d a Paladin back when I started back in TBC…

Prior to WoW I always played Support classes in other MMOs, and the “go to” healer to me back then was the Priest/Cleric.

Hindsight is a [female dog]… :face_exhaling:

WTB Class Change that auto changes all mogs to their equivalent plate versions!

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Well, apart from the mogs suggestion, leveling has made so fast that multiclassing is easy now. Could level one to give it a try to have variation aswell.

It’s like some webcomic I saw at one time, where it said that Artificial Intelligence will not allow us to become more intelligent, but it will allow us to be more stupid and at a faster rate.

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