You can play Wilfred on fortified weeks when its not combined with necrotic or sanguine. Last week it was necrotic + tyranical. Weak packs but despite being weak they had to be kited. Meaning tank will, majority of the time, move the pack out of your RoF area.
And when this happens and/or pack dies fast, you won’t be able to continue generating alot of shards and keep casting RoF for secondary infernals and benefit from Wilfred cooldown reduction.
Yeah, cinders is really good especially if you opt to get more out of havoc chaosbolts over ROF.
As for Conduit choice, Korayn works really well with Destro’s frontloaded damage.
The soulbind increases damage done to targets above 75% health by 10%.
The final tier in the soulbind increases crit chance by 25% for the first 5 seconds after hitting an enemy that hasn’t damaged you.
You cast a conflag on one target to grant you the 5 seconds buff and then you use cataclysm with the buff, refreshing the buff because it damaged new targets for the first time.
Since Soul Rot does not apply the buff, you should use it before conflag if it’s off cd.
Every class is playable, that doesn’t mean it is good.
I have no idea why some people need to defend the class when it is obviously terrible.
Ruined after MoP.
On M+ topic: recently i have read somewhere that lock is the only class unrepresented in MDI. That should say enough.
Bring MoP lock back
I got keystone master with destruction and prefer it for dungeon over other specs. You can adjust talents for tyrannical/fortified and for most of the time i was overall top dps for dungeons. But problem for me is to get invited for 15+ keys now…Got kicked out few times from group when people see im not affliction :D.
I don’t have an issue with our dps, sure it’s not on the level of other meta classes but i can live with that.
I think our fix for destro to be on par with meta classes would be a simple solution:
My biggest issue is not our lack of utility, but how much utility other classes can offer compared to us. A few points for this week for example:
Sure as dps there are loads of other people with higher scores or better gear signing up but that doesn’t change the fact that you’re at the bottom of the food chain when it comes to choice, and that’s the main problem.
It’s blatant that Mage/Boomie/Hunter have way too much, cover everything and counter every affix.
But I don’t think just giving more to warlocks (or any other class or specc that isnt mage / boomie) would make things automatically better for everyone. There needs do be an overhaul of utility, including stuns/cc. Reducing them would even make pvp more bearable.
That actually is a community problem, not a poor game or class design. Besides Healthstone you bring brez, fear, banish, area stun (=multi target interrupt), gates and in addition to that you can also throw high dps, especially cleave damage.
Destruction is perfectly fine to me in M+ and the fact that people do not invite any class which was not rated as S-Tier by Youtuber XYZ is a whole other problem.
i managed to fix a lot the dps by having a new build and wilfred’s infernal… the truth is that the aoe dps is doing very well and when I have the infernal up with dark soul instability… when that’s not up the dps goes down a lot… i have the feeling that maybe the cooldowns should be slightly lower or the incinerate damage could be a bit increased because it is a filler spell that has to be casted for a long time till your cds are up again.
Also, the problem with not being accepted in high end mythics is still there… nobody invites you on anything over 12+ because they all go for other dps classes who have BL… since the warlock dps isn’t the best either and any class can reach the same, why they should take warlocks when they can have the same and BL? This is a big issue.
Yeeah, Wilfred’s inferno build can be good, but it lacks consistency. It’s even worse in PUG groups and it works well in only a few of the dungeons. MOTS and HOA are good examples where it can work well. Cinders works better for PUG environments.
This is a community perception issue, bloodlust only takes up 1 group slot. Warlocks are more than good enough to do mid to high keys.
Fear, banish and gate are pretty much useless atm.
indeed, in PUGs wilfred is almost useless.
I also agree about BL but for whatever reason the problem exists and there’s no way to control it unless it’s completely removed or they offer something similar to all dps classes.
I’ve noticed they have removed the ability for locks to use our demon gate to skip the trash pack at the start of MoTS 
People and their preferences. I am so fed up with this ****. As demo in low keys, I do more damage than super-duper meta classes. SS saved many runs yet it’s not enough to get in? I’d rather say players don’t even know warlocks have b-ress. Not to mention taking some heat off of healers due to my tankiness. Ignorance and some bloated championship wannabe’s who watched too much AWC ‘hhhh tfu’. Go run your own key, 4 runs and you’ll have 2 rewards to choose from. Get some raid gear as well and you’re set. Go have some fun and **** those elitists.
Oh god no!!! that was my party trick for that dungeon to always guarantee a spot!
I mean you can already skip them with a priest, DH, rogue, invis pots, but warlocks having fun? noooooo
Now I’m sure they hate the class
Hi, How do you get eight chaos bolts in a havoc window? Genuinely asking.
Cinders, Field of Blossoms (Dreamweavers final conduit trait) and probably with Reverse Entropy proc. I don’t track that, but I’m guessing it’s up at the time. Having Immolate up on a few targets is nice for shard gen, too.
I have just been testing various rotations on target dummies, it work best with Immolate on 4 targets, but 3 works, it’s a bit clutch, though. There is some RNG involved with Immolate crits providing and extra shard bit at 3 targets. It’s easier to get it done in an actual M+ setting.
Cataclysm, Incinerate to fill some shards, 1x Conflag to full shards, Soul Rot to proc Field of Blossoms, Havoc, Chaosbolt, Conflag, Chaosbolt, Conflag, Chaosbolt X2
I’ll have to try it out when I eventully get Cinders. I don’t raid though so it might be a while.
I’m afraid it’s gonna be 2 dog**** expansions in a row. MoP was king, WoD I kinda enjoyed F&B putting all those sweet CB on everything in AoE, it looked really awesome as well.
Someone above said some nice bandaid fixes, like 2min infernal and Cataclysm baseline, but for this shadow of it former self company, that is such a drastic change it won’t even make it to next expansion, even though it’s just a bandaid imo.
It’s not only destro that is a shadow of it former self
Just get the memory from LFR Sludgefist 