Without 40 man raids creating guild would be a waste of time, you will already ruin Molten Core since only guildmaster is supposed to have Thunderfury, not every naablet in the realm and their mothers.
You did not give us fresh Classic so please cater to Classic player base if you want our subscriptions. For the retail people who fail to raid mythic create a retail+ so we get to keep our challenges in raid that is making 40 people be coordinated.
We also want unique drops not everyone having same items and enjoy looking at the drop from the boss. Please dont kill Classic experience totally.
Promise us now 40 man raids so we know its a point to build guilds.
Until Blizzard notice it and make a retail season of discovery for the retail people.
And BTW I read they implied BWL 40 man. But they gonna ruin MC and I have to wait 1 moar phase probably. I dont want them to ruin BWL because other guilds wont make 2 teams.
Do you know how hard it is to have 2x 20 man teams instead of 1 40 man team just cause some other guilds cant find 40 ppl and need a bridge in MC.
Its why we must show them Classic players want 40 man raid and we dont want transmog or everyone having the same gear.
Whole difficulty in Classic is to coordinate 40 ppl. Making smaller raids will kill the experience and make it a faceroll for angry retail kids who cant manage their raids in retail and wanna destroy our Classic.
Indeed, I’m fairly certain blizzard know this and BWL and other raids will remain 40man. I am not worried, neither should you be, unless we start seeing only babbies with skill issues and zoomer-tier attention spans playing the game
I have a guild and I want a fun 40 man raid with wipes.
If you dont want it go back to retail there you can do sweaty parse action about to speedrun the raid.
Wipe is part of the fun in Classic, best memory I have is my raidleader trashin stuff in his room cause hunter pulled Ragna when he was positioning the ranged.
Classic is about fun and having a 40 man raid where at least some people are “baboons” who must be taught.
MC is touched cause retail babies who cant handle their game want to ruin ours. Since they supposed to stand afk like in BFD and get loot. I see ppl crying about Gnomereagan bein too hard or that GDKP is taken away so they can not buy loot.
Absolutely incorrect imo. I’m a vanilla day 1 player who much enjoyed the 40-mans back in the day but in no universe do I want them back. 24/7 recruiting, tons of drama, only a few raid guilds per server and a total collapse later on when player numbers inevitably goes down.
I’ll reverse this and say they need to make everything 20-man or it won’t work out well.
Or at least make an alternative raid path for guilds who don’t want to go through the absolute agony of maintaining a 40-man raid group.
Well then play wotlk in Cata U get soon 10 man HC raids. Why destroy Classic for us who have nostalgia and want the only unique thing about Classic.
You have wotlk, you have retail, you will have cata. Why destroy the only thing making Classic special. Its very socially fun and stuff happen no one would enjoy in sweaty 10 man raid. A 40 man wipe is somethin different its a story you can tell later or remember.
The coordination, the chaos, the hillarious stuff, the new people you get to know. But ofc in retail they have looking for raid so they can skip talking to others…
Lets be antisocial in game if its not enough of bein that in real life
If you want nostalgia go play era? This is long past the point of being about that.
Also who the hell here is talking about parsing and speedrunning?
We are now going from 10 man to 20 man and then into 40? This will break more than some guilds trying to keep up with the rosters boss, you dont seem to have ever dealt with organizing a 40 man raid week after week after week its agonizing work and most dont wanna do that again.
Are 40 man raids something special? Yeah maybe after 3-4 raids and after that it gets stale quickly theres a reason raids like ZG are really popular.
You bring up some weird points tbh but you do you I guess
Era is not fresh? I even played hardcore to have a fresh server.
In SoD I was assured by developers we will have endgame with 40 man raids now they ruined the MC already.
With that in mind I started recruitment, why do you think we recruit people and send more than 1 team into Gnomereagan?
The game was advertised as Classic Season of Discovery not as retail season of discovery.
So I created guild according to what Blizz promised and put a lot of effort into it so I can have my 40 man fun in raid. And I expect Blizzard to give straight answer: Yes it will be 40 man raids from BWL onwards.
Or no just leave the retail discovery for retail players. Simple as that.
They already will give retail players 20 man raids with full loot so why destroy our 40 man BWL, AQ40 and Naxx? They already destroyed MC.
