PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 1)

Highmountain are the customisation options for normal tauren, not a different playable race :smiley:

To be honest most allied races should just be folded into the actual ‘parent’ races and that’s my tepid take for today.


I’ll admit it, I’m feeling a bit hopeful again

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Agreed, the only races that could really stand on their own as new playable allied races are:

Void elves, Nightborne, Zandalari and Vulpera, the rest are just a bunch of customisation options given a entirelly new race.

Made it my

Made it my personal mission tbf, I’ll keep demanding™ it!

Just don’t get too carried away. They won’t give us anything more than they feel they must.

This is a really good post:


They just need tauren fur colours and hair styles.
Snapped antler options and a few more tattoo options really.

The likes are well placed.

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Yeah. The next expansion will tell whether there is real change. Even 9.2 interests me little at this point.

Yeah, I agree with that post too.

I’m not saying; “thank you” for the changes.

But i may actually come back to check the .5 patch out now.

Blizzard staff have this weird situation about engaging with the community. Either because of the rockstar mentality employee who doesn’t talk to the fans, or they’re banned from doing so because they began raging at them, and because Acti-Blizz ordered a crosswide mute on all official communications because it’s team cannot be trusted to speak on the game’s behalf.

I still remember very early WoW when the GM’s and devs posted on the forums frequently. That all went away with the likes of Tseric.

It’s evident when people like Daunser make light of things you are invested in, this is the reaction. It’s a problem with humility on their behalf and not treating the medium with enough respect.

By all means the Mograines should be some of the most important figures in this expansion. Those three have been so crucial and woven into WoW from Vanilla, to Wrath and beyond that they’re bound to all themes of the undead. Yet we just follow farted on Thrall and Jaina and other mortals who do not fit in the realm of death.

Oh yeah, I still hate we have no real insight to what happened to Renault.

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Honestly, the game’s just about Anduin, Jaina, Thrall and then one other random Horde leader (Sylvanas, Baine etc).

Thats it, Blizzard can’t focus on more characters in a story, their :peanuts: brains can’t handle it and we get wet :poop: like the Night Warrior arc or Baine sadly sitting in a corner all expansion.

Also, this’ll probably get me another week long ban, so see ya on the otherside :wink:

For an expansion about death, we’re missing quite alot of previous (World of) Warcraft characters. Looking at Elisande, Gul’Dan, Kilrogg, Kargath etc.

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Make Mythics all soloable. It’s exhausting having to fight the legacy loot system to begin with. Gul’dan’s a pain, Kil’Jaeden is a pain alongside Avatar, remove the pain that is the Eonar fight and Aggramar.

Also a seriously scaling work on those raids, no one should be dying to boss hurting too much, it’s two expansions later, why is this still happening? Now dying because of mechanics I can live with, but not that.

Yeah, I think Bellular was right when he said, the Shredder usually used for player complaints is now mostly utilized to destroy evidences, hence why.


PvE content from previous expansions should be soloable. Blizzard gets to bump up their precious player retention rates, and we get our hands on sweet transmogs.

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I can understand why it’s not always soloable for the expansion just after the latest due to balance issues.

Eh, feels like an instanced buff would sort things out?

“Echoes of the Past: Damage done increased by 200%, and damage taken reduced by 50%.”

Something like that. Something that would make it fairly trivial regardless of gear.


Can’t help it.
Posting impassionately, they say you don’t care.
Posting nothing, they say you ignore.
Posting with passion, you incite trolls.
Posting fluff, you say nonsense.
Post with what facts you have, they whittle down with rationale.
There is no win.
There is only slow degradation.
Take note. It is the first and only time you’ll see someone in my position make that position.
You can be me when I’m gone.

Proof that the players can drive any developer to a lovecraftian madness, if they let them.

RE: the changes coming in 9.1.5. Sorry, but I am not going to give Blizzard any praise either. I 100% agree with this guy:

Are the changes good? Yes. Will they make the game better? Yep.

Did I post about these exact problems before the expansion even launched, like hundreds of thousands of others? Yes, I did. Even when some posters in this very forum were in favor of the ripcord staying, for one.

I want them to give us something new that is solid when it launches, and not something they spend an entire expansion progressively fixing.

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Radical idea I know, but it sounds like the system FF14 has (Roulettes?) works quite well at keeping all content current?

But, yeah, WoW doesn’t have enough good/not looking like 2004 assets mogs to be sleeping on making mog runs easier.
There’s so much room to improve stuff, like heck…

God no!

I mean, yes, it does keep content current to a degree (the gear that drops in roulettes are of the dungeon level, so level 50 dung = level 50 gear)

But nothing hurts quite like getting Satasha at level 70 where your rotation is basically 2 buttons for the whole dungeon.

You can also unsync in FF and run Satasha as a level 70 with all your abilites and one shot everything.

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Member when we followed Jaina and Genn in Nazjatar and Shandris was just a side-character when we we had Maiev, Tyrande, Malfurion and Jarod walking around?

Those were Elves who literaly remeber the Kaldorei Empire at its peak and they did not even make small appearance, instead we got a history lessen about the Night Elf Empire from Jaina and went out to search Shandris bestfriend from 10k years ago :weary:


I 'member making a meme image about that in WoD and was told that I was too harsh on blizzard and whiny about the lack of effort put into the game. I expect an apology on my desk by the end of the day.