PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 1)

What they did to Teldrassil and Undercity for ‘oh noes, the shock factor’ and false stake-raising equivalence, was a mistake.

It’s like when film scripts get entirely rewritten, just to spite those who guessed correctly. “Oh hey, what a twist, eh?” No. No, that’s… that’s just shoddy. You dun goofed.

yeah explain that to the refugees too

whereas nobody on azeroth even knows anduin’s a dk now

The closest thing I’ve come to is something similar to this.

But it wouldn’t surprise me if it happened. I guess my expectations are higher when it’s a billion dollar company doing it though.

He killed a bunch of those butterfly-cat thingies in Ardenweald, but yeah, Evilduin did… actually nothing really noticable
Pretty lame Arthas 2.0 if you ask me

friendly reminder that those are

as we established earlier in this thread

can’t they just grow a new tree?

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important thing to remember re: sylv getting let off the hook/redeemed/whatever:
they did it with illidan
and he had all of his soul the whole time

Whether it’s a ‘good’ or ‘right’, it’s definitely not off the table for this set of writers to do it again.

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Nelfoids… When will they learn?

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I want my home city back.

Yeah, it was a craphole but it was MY craphole

yeah and if blizzard also takes that route i wouldn’t be surprised if wow actually gets cancelled

it wouldn’t be that bad if you know, they managed to write a story of extreme injustices well, but they’re just like ‘yeah sylvanas woo’

does blizz even have a winning move outside of stomping sylvanas’s head after getting some answers? or would that even be a winning move, cuz you’ll have sylvanas stans rabid over not being able to fanjerk over certain things any more (who also tend to be questionably decorated in certain symbols sometimes)

I am looking forward to the day when Sylvanas sacrifices herself for the good of all of Azeroth and they erect statues of her not only in Horde but Alliance cities too.

they’ll make a statue of sylvanas out of the ashes of teldrassil in the spot where it was grown

100%

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based

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And from these ashes shall arise a new order…that will shake the foundation…of the world…

Given exactly what everyone predicted happened in the cinematic, I don’t think anyone is expecting anything else than a redemption here.

Sylvanas being shelved just like Illidan is the best we can hope for.

some kind of… Final Order…

honestly can’t wait for the voidification of rest of the black eyed elves and villainisation of the night elves/tyrande in general if they’ll still want to hang sylvanas

with how quickly they take storylines, bet tyrande will be a penultimate boss* in 9.4 before jailer, but she’s there to kill sylvanas or smth instead

* who am i kidding, blizz would turn her into a first boss lol

the only thing that can kill WoW is WoW, as a wise man (me) once said

eh, not quite

they’ve trying really hard to make her a villain for 3 years now, the turnaround is recent

nope

that ship sailed ages ago, all they can do now is damage control

if they let her live, people will be rabid
if they kill her, there’ll be zero characters with personality left
tho in fairness she doesn’t have much of that as is, the last bit escaped at 9.0 launch

The only winning move is to stall while they write up some new conflict-creating characters that aren’t cosmic superbeings but we know they are physically incapable of doing so to the point where old conflict-creating characters are retconned into being cosmic superbeing pawns instead

based

expecting slands to continue past 9.2 is very optimistic

Illidan: Jailer of Sargeras
Sylvanas: Jailer of Jailer.

Genius!

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i still stand by my idea of after ‘beating’ jailer we enter a darkness and wake up in pre/post-cata after vanessa vancleef hallucinogen-poisoned us in deadmines

Or Jailer of the Damned…