it was allegedly Alex Afrasiabi, from what I’ve heard.
Afrasiabi also wrote Stonetalon Garrosh, which is pretty funny. Swings+roundabouts.
It will happen when they release the patch live. 
They should have stuck with Stonestalon Garrosh as his characterization. Afrasiabi being a creep aside, the ending of that storyline was well-written and it’ll forever remain a pity they did the opposite with him in MoP.
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Probably. I assume it’s easier to tell a memey story which is mostly references to the original work than to tell anything original.
Destroying foundational lore for the memes is Cataclysm’s greatest legacy.
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Disagree. We’d already seen ”the honourable orc” between Saurfang and Thrall, so I’m glad they tried something different with Garrosh. The execution was ultimately flawed, but all the necessary foundations were there, between him feeling like he couldn’t live up to Grom’s legacy to being thrust into a position he really wasn’t ready for. Makes sense he’d crack under those circumstances, we just needed a bit more time with him in Cata to see all that play out. Like, say, during a patch that was all about Thrall …
But the concept was good.
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More screentime would have helped alot. Garrosh also suffered some issues WoW has in general with telling without showing.
The Twillight Highlands intro with the meme-line of “what person sends off his own air support? A winner” is a pretty glaring example.
Rushed and underutilized like so much other lore.
Well, I’d say Garrosh was portrayed as a real dickhead who ultimately had a code that he lived up to. Because he really was the polar opposite of Thrall in terms of personality, I’d say it was an interesting angle to take him in, but instead they turned him into a xenophobe “orcs best, rest bad” which was a real 180 in the span of one expansion.
Garrosh was raised on Outland, a dying world where healthy crops and lifestock are hard to come by, trees are sparse and the once proud orcs were relegated to a mere handful of villages, tucked in between the void of space, brutal ogre clans and other, even more horrific monstrosities.
Garrosh then travels to Azeroth and eventually becomes Warchief… and yet not much changes because his lauded predecessor Thrall led his people to a barren wasteland, tantalizingly close to innumerable acres of woodlands and yet unable to make use of those resources because of his submissive diplomacy.
Despite all their might, the orcs are still made to struggle if not fight to the death for necessities that should never have been so scarce in the first place. And thanks to their leadership, they are sent out across Azeroth to aid allies who’ve done markedly little to pay them back for how much they have bled.
Arguably an undeserved fate for a race of people who were manipulated, made to fight a war hardly their own (despite what they were led to believe), eventually imprisoned, humiliated and made to work like animals… and who still gave it their all to fight their former demonic masters and save this world, despite personally having experienced how tempting the power offered by the Legion really is.
All in all, more than enough motivation to embark on a campaign of “national rejuvenation”, to sum it up one way.
I think that’s where Garrosh the Villain went wrong. He never needed to be comically evil to do what he ended up doing. Blizzard should’ve capitalized on the context offered by the world they themselves have written.
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what I’m hearing is that Jaina is to blame for Garrosh becoming a villain
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This infuriaties me still, originally the orcs settled Durotar because it reminded them of their homeland. Orcs liked the brutal environment because it weeded out weakness, this can also be seen in a report from Khargath in the Badlands where the commander says that the place is a hellhole, and therefore ideal for training recruits.
This was later changed to this bizarre notion that Thrall declared the entire orcish race must suffer eternally in an unlivable desert and that most of the orcs are really unhappy with this.
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I mean, you could combine the two and let them live in Un’goro Crater… Which is basicly a unliveable hellhole with dinosaurs…
Thrall’s first mistake with Garrosh was to overhype Grommash for him, who was in all honestly a pretty terrible person and Orc, who did one single okay deed in his entire life immediately after nearly screwing up their whole race again, completely willingly.
Maybe not the best thing to do to praise him above and beyond as the truest of true orcs for his naive son.
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Ngl its kinda an Orc thing to honour the leaders who are basicly war-criminals… By current Warcraft standards, that is.
Kinda like if the Alliance would honour Garithos… 
Finding, changing and/or removing any and all references to something that could be deemed offensive or something that was said by some white male back in the old days of 2007.
It seems the devs and writers also spend an obscene amount of time on Twitter, and occasionally call the players who have played WoW for the past decade or two; that they’re wrong and know nothing.
Unless of course you’ve went to uni, written multiple books, worked on games, are a programmer, etc.
bunch of clowns
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I’m in awe of the changes to the Don Quixote quests. There’s so many terrible, unfunny Cataclysm meme quests that reference something that was dated on the expansion’s arrival. Don Quixote is timeless. It’s baffling.
Hey pals, anyone wanna listen to some Iron Town Dweller?
we live in a society
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I do agree that they went a bit too far with that (but that’s a general flaw with most Blizzard storytelling, they struggle to write a villain that’s anything short of evil), but I wouldn’t say it was a complete 180 when several of the Horde races’ leaders either disobeyed or outright worked against him. One of Cairne’s first actions was to accuse him of murdering Cenarions and challenging him to a duel to the death, then Vol’jin followed that up by threatening to kill him, then Sylvanas disobeyed him in Silverpine, then Baine kept having meetings with the enemy behind his back…
Blizz still took things way too far, but it wasn’t completely out of left field. Think it would’ve been more interesting if he’d just tossed out the tauren and the trolls and left it at that, honestly (or told them to swear their loyalty to the Warchief over their respective leaders). My biggest gripe is that it took two expansions before we got a single confrontation between Garrosh and Thrall.
…Anyway, I’m derailing the thread. To get back on track, I hope they rewrite the lines for Maximillian before the changes go live, because “town dweller” just looks strange in this context.
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