PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 1)

I’ll look it up when I get back home, my brother got the book(never read it myself, though))

Is that the one where it was like “haha Chronicles 1 had a cringe cosmology chart, here’s the real one bucko!”

Do you know if any info on Zerith Mortis is in there? Because to me, as someone who doesn’t own any out of game stuff, the 9.2 reveal was “yeah, Zereth Mortis the place I literally just learned about from this video. Uh, sure.”

Yea, I think its the same book.

From what I understand, there is no mention of Zereth Mortis in that book either… So:

counts for about anyone, really :clown_face:

prior to the video Zereth Mortis was mentioned exactly once in the Korthia hub in a < stay a while and listen > conversation between sinister merchant pal and strict attendant man

that’s it

that’s its full existence
the conversation does not even remotely imply what zereth mortis is

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OoOOoOoooHhhh Mystery. OooOOoOoH the unknowable

Da’nuser probably.

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Sometimes it works because you get people deeply invested tel’abim for some reason

Not if you drop it literally the patch before you reveal it though

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There’s more speculation and mystery surrounding these addictive bananas that are being smuggled into the mainland than there is about the craddle of all existence in the Wow universe.

Talk about a failure as a writer.

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and on top of that it is also the singlemost important and powerful place in all the cosmos

then yeah
it becomes
a bit of an oopsy

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A lot of that comes down to there being no room for speculation in the current story. Any mystery is immediately explained or is so non-sensical that speculating doesn’t make it any better. See Elunvas.

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Is there actually a Broker called Da’nuser or is this just a meme?

It’s a Meme.

Before the scandals, I wouldn’t have put it past him to self-insert himself into the game… But after Mac’aree dude. Yeah not gonna happen.

If FFXIV was written like Shadowlands, then we’d spend all of ARR chasing Gaius around and nearly cornering him several times, with him /e getting away out of every predicament while taunting us…

…and then the last patch would end with us going to this place called Ishgard that we would learn suddenly existed north of the ARR lands all along despite not being mentioned ever before. Also it would turn out that the Garleans weren’t the real problem, so we’d just forget about them, never resolve that plot, and go deal with the real pressing concern, that being Ishgard’s unending war with Dravania. And then at the Gates of Judgment we’d be like…

— We have not let outsiders into Ishgard for twenty years!
— Please let us in
— Okay

And then just before that, you would see that spoiler scene in Ul’dah without having any idea who Raubahn and the Sultana were, but if you want to know more about them and how they got into that situation, buy our new upcoming book for only $29.99!

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Incorrect. This would be in a novel and game players would be very confused by the sudden change in Ul’dah.

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As I’m playing through it, I’m kind of shocked at the amount of resolved plot threads per hour that FF14 manages to achieve. Or maybe I’m just used to really subpar storytelling.

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I’ve beaten the story + a majority of the side quests and let me tell you that the stuff you do in ARR connects to later expansions and when they refer back or continue threads from ARR you go “oh yeah, that makes sense. This is the logical conclusion to that event that occured hundreds of hours ago.”

I don’t count this as a spoiler at all so I’m just going to say it. I really like how he just says “yeah, this is what I want. This is how I’m going to do it.” when you interact with him. We know next to nothing about the Jailer and we certainly don’t know what reality being remade means for any of us.

Blizzard really took the wrong lesson from the cryptic moments of Legion and decided to either explain everything so much so that there’s no mystery to it or explain very little so we’re all confused. Yeah he’s got the sigils (which we know nothing about) so that he can go to the Sepulchur of the First Ones (which we only learned about when the patch was announced) so that he can remake reality (what does this mean for us?).

Was very impressed that Heavensward actually had a bunch of quests and plot threads leading into it, rather than just saying “AH CHAMPYUN, MY LONG TIME ASSOCIATE WHO I WON’T EVEN ADDRESS AS A FRIEND, TIME TA GO TO ISHGARD. GATE JUST OPENED FOR US. LIKE THAT.”

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Spoilers below.

Solution: they create a new arbiter and give the rank to a random character out of the blue. Got it? Out of the blue.

That would cost us a raid tier. Assuming people still raid.

We still have to understand what she wanted to change and into what. Sure, the Jailer wanted everyone to be subservient to him. But Sylvanas? What was she expecting when she speaks about “control over her life”? Still unclear.
This is an immense weakness of the narrative I’d add and with Blizzard having such a shallow story-telling her explanation will be reduced to that of a one-liner.

  • All the covenants have been wrapped up in 9.1 and we won’t hear any further developments about them again.

I’m still mad it looks like Sylvanas is getting alive out of the expansion. Like WTF Blizzard, why do you always have to forgive villainous murderers that want to wipe entire civilizations?!

I wonder what they’ll do with Sire Denathrius and the Sword he’s captured in.

Will probably make a random return in the Lifelands and said he actually always served the Jailer of the Lifelands instead and that the Nathzerim were actually created there or whatever nonsense they going to come up with… :weary:

Or he’s going to get put into a prototype body instead of something more usefull…

My character’s reaction to Ardenweald would basically be “Ugh, no, can I please get some other afterlife where I get to roam the woods as myself or something?”

It’s this one.

People hype the story a lot but in reality everyone’s just used to MMOs having lots of loose ends/unresolved threads/plot holes constantly

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This is actually an option but it’s not really made clear at all for the most part.
Take Huln, he can freely choose between being himself and being an eagle.

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