Azjol-Nerub, Undermine, Kezan, Tel’Abim and Dragon Isles are all one expac, they’re all somehow about the Uberdragon that used Galakrond and daddy Deathwing.
When Sylvanas says “I thought that if I could punish him for his crimes, I would be absolved of mine” is she trying to weasel out of retribution because it was her quest for revenge that caused her to commit all her crimes and that means revenge shouldn’t be a thing because look at all the crimes she committed in her quest for revenge
because that’s such intergalactic 8d timetravel level mental gymnastics that I’m impressed a human wrote it
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Point is, alongside Zandalar, Kul Tiras and probably a handfull of other islands… They could’ve been their own expansion(perfectly mixed with the building up of the Naga threat) but alas, it was all shoved down our throat within a single expansion alongside the last Old God threat. 3 Expansions worth of… stories. Finished within a sh!tty storyline and expansion. Thanks Danuser, your Danuverse is the best thing ever added to Warcraft. I was always wondering who 3D-printed the God who oversaw it all and made sure Frostmourne ended up in Arthas hands because those Vampire-like Demons just did not really explain it!)
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last extant canon location on Azeroth that’s not been explored in any meaningful way.
She says that? Does that refer to the Jailer or to Arthas? Because it doesn’t make any sense at all if it’s the latter. Nearly every single one of her “crimes” was committed only after Arthas was defeat. Raising new undead, employing the Blight with no regard for collateral damage, burning the Tree - all that happened after she went #TeamJailer. She was basically a saint before then. As far as I remember.
Yep!
Who knows! The writers certainly don’t!
Working as intended!
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Yes
About Arthas. The rest of the conversation makes that fairly clear.
And really it makes enough sense. Whether in control or not, inflicting unspeakable horror upon your own people is generally considered bad, including by the controlled one doing them.
But this somehow gets neglected by 95% of people and good god do I despise datamining in a major way.
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Sylvanas will turn out to have been Nathanos in disguise.
When she gets her soul fragmant back, that was her returning.
Yeah but… she didn’t. She inflicted unspeakable horror on Lordaeron. In WC3 the Sylvanas named Banshee is only there for the last ten minutes or so of the Sunwell mission.
So unless it’s in some rancid little book somewhere, she kinda didn’t do anything to her fellow elves before she started making Dark Rangers in her own image.
i dunno i think the whole ‘sunwell incident’ is kind of big to elfkind
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Sure, but Sylvanas didn’t have much of a role in it beyond powersliding to her death.
Which was totally part of the Jailer’s plan don’tchaknow.
A limited role is a role all the same, I don’t really see much point in quantifying it. She was disgusted by what she’d done under Arthas’ control and wanted to murder him for it, there’s really not much more to it than that.
Nobody knows, not even the people in charge of the story do.
"Oh no I stood in the corner of the map and I did nothing, not even a little bit of evil.
I’m so disgusted. Also I’m gonna shoot someone with my bow as soon as I find a way to regain my body that totally wasn’t stabbed in the stomach" - Sylvanas, probably.
idk in the version of wc3 i played she did murder elves but i guess that might be a skill issue
Ghoul swarm all the way.
'cus challenge runs.
Because 100% of Sylvanas exhibites anything but being mind-conrolled.
Even her Lover, apparently, doesn’t see the difference.
That bit referred to it being very clearly about Arthas, but thanks to me adding another line I can see how it became unclear.
She refers to it as “her crimes” though… how can it be “her crimes” when she’s by definition free of guilt? I get wanting revenge, I get feeling remorseful, but crimes carries the implication that she deserves punishment, no? Why would she deserve to be punished for thing she did as a puppet on strings? Even calling it a limited role is a stretch, lol.
Regardless, I feel like it’s kind of weird for her to bring up the Scourge part of her career when she’s done far more heinous things since then… without being directly controlled to boot.
look i didn’t say it’s written -well-.