PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 1)

Reminder that the community council thing has been tried before in private and all the suggestions will be ignored like before.

The people included in it are going to be streamers, YouTubers and social influences. It’s going to be crawling with yes men.

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To say nothing of the fact that participants will be publically visible, inviting all manner of unwanted attention if other players don’t agree with them.

I realize how cynical that sounds, but I’ve been to the General forum. Constructive debate is the exception, not the norm.

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not sure they have enough of those left lmao dab

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Their input was also ignored, at least according to Preach. He had a bit of a meltdown in regards to that while reading the blog post and Ion’s interview not too long ago and it was kinda sad to see.

Edit: found, in case someone’s curious.

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Yeah, it’s whee I got the story from. There was a PvPer who also ranted about how everything they said was “taken onboard” and then thoroughly ignored.

From the outside, Blizzard are 100% filled with egotistical morons.

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To give them the benefit of the doubt, I will assume that the lower ranking devs who gather or just stumble upon feedback (according to Preach again, he had talks with regular rank and file folk), do listen and relay the feedback to the higher-ups. And then the higher ups respond “lol, lmao”

New cinematic just leaked on the Wowhead datamining stream. Uther talking to Sylvanas’ split soul to try wake her irresponsive body, and she gets a new model wearing her old Ranger-General armour.

It’s this.

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why do they both look like HOTS models

Quick, get all the blood and void elves to ask for normal eyes!

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Besides the story and so on, that was a good cinematic.

Story aside, the cinematic was pretty good. Though I cannot help but find the faces odd, are they… too smooth? Is this what people call uncanny valley? “Alive” Uther’s eyes just looks so disturbing.

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I mean the cinematic is wonderful, even though the models looked a bit…

That’s precisely it.

I’m also really, really confused about elves and eyes at this point.

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These absolute bastards are seriously going to say that the Sylvanas we’ve always known since W3 after her death was in fact just a bloody Drone, an incomplete puzzle totally different in every aspect from the one before she died, an entirely different person who can’t possibly be the same as that other piece of soul thus doing a Hunter’s misdirection on her for all the atrocities and this innocent little itsy bitsy piece is now a victim… Of herself we should feel sympathy for.

Danuser, I truly want you to choke on a Lego piece.

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At this point I’m growing jealous of her. Will I have to burn down a city to recieve so many amazing transmogs in short order, and why does it have to be Silvermoon?

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To quote the last words of the US president of Red Alert 2: Yuri’s revenge intro…

“My god. That maniac’s really going to do it. May God help us all.”

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I can’t wait until they go with the stereotype for female characters of “Go grab these clothes/armor in order to represent my change as no longer Sylvanas the Banshee Queen but Sylvanas the Ranger-General of Silvermoon.”

I bet it’s Lorthe’mar who kept it in his closet, nodding knowingly “I knew this day would come.”

honest question but are we seeing the same cinematic?

The cinematic never states that they’re two different people, and that Evil Sylvanas did Evil Things without any agency of her own. She literally looks at the camera directly and acknowledges that she did this, that she cannot be forgiven, and that she will accept the consequences for her own actions.

Even Uther looked at the camera in 9.1 and said that having your soul get fragmented doesn’t turn you evil, you’re still the same person making your own decisions – a piece of you from the moment of the split is trapped in time, and the reunion led to some introspection of what you’ve allowed yourself to become.

like i get people hate the expac but straight up making things up is wild

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Where you see a six, I see a nine. Perspective my friend.

It does seem to look that way though. Banshee Sylvanas did the evil deeds with her agency, my grievance here is that the cinematic makes it look like Ranger-General is pulling a Tyrande here “I was a spectator of my own body.” which doesn’t compute on my end hence why I said ‘Victim of herself.’

Uther may be talking trash here, but this is so muddled up so I’ll explain my reasoning. Banshee Sylvanas quickly turned into a ruthless person. Then you have Ranger-General Sylvanas involved, who as you say here is a piece frozen in time that got reintroduced back leading to the comatose introspection. You see my point? You’re telling me here that both are the same, yet are different but really the same and with Zovaal involved in the process as to what exactly he did to Banshee Sylvanas or what he said to convince her.

You have your answer. If anything is a wild mess, it’s this narrative.

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