So I don’t disagree, but I also don’t really agree. Our characters at this point have done too much to be nobodies, and racking up some titles because they can’t say our names in voice acting is the natural progression of that.
But that doesn’t mean you can’t have grounded stories or small scale moments as the Champion or Commander or whatever title you want. Ultimately raid bosses are down by…well, a raid, not an individual. Sure, there’s a certain “wait, why am I doing this?” when you get sent to pick up poop for your mandatory expansion poop quest if you have those titles but ultimately there’s nothing stopping them from having the champion show up in town and start fixing problems because there’s problems that need fixing. “Generic helpful guy/gal who can’t say no when people are in need” is a perfectly adequate characterisation for the Champion which lets them tell pretty much every story under the sun, big and small, because whatever it is, our Champion is just happy to help.
So long as they get paid 17g 27s and a green item at the end of it, obviously
That’s the other characterisation that works: utterly mercenary, they will do anything if someone pay them, no matter how basic. Herd some sheep? Bake a pie? Nothing is beneath the Champion of the Gold Horde.
How is LotrO doing this day and age? Might give it another go, ngl!
Also, no answer on what happened to Denathrius('s Sword)? Or the Dreadlords? Anduin after he freed himself? Or apparently the Dark Rangers who, unlike Sylvanas, are still missing parts of their souls?(why else would they still have red eyes ?)
It is doing just fine. The questing experience remains the same as ever. I think they did a great job with the “solo” way of doing things. World chat seems to be busy to the point of turning into hot dramas around many topics. Raid groups keep forming, dungeon list is also doing well so playerbase is stable. I saw some random complaints about mounted combat or some kind of bad rewards from the newest raid but every game has its issues
A meme on the internet once told me that villains who’s motivation is simply “An evil lust for power” are the weakest kind there is from a story telling perspective - but honestly I would take a thousand “Yes I’m the villain, how could you tell?” Evil Emperor Zurgs over one “You cannot comprehend the magnitude of my plans (also I’m actually the good guy?)” Jailer.
At least the Evil Emperor Zurgs of the world explain their ambitions up front and have a good time doing it; meanwhile a year in and I still haven’t the foggiest about what Zovaal actually wants.
Take Rita Repulsa - sure, her personality is thin as a piece of paper, but at least I know I’m in for a hell of a time watching her
I mean, take a very recent WoW example: Denathrius is a “simple” villain. Dude just wants to have power, anima, and probably venthyr babes. His plans might be multilayered (anima drought, etc.) but his motivations are pretty straightforward. There’s no trauma in his past, no greater good he’s striving for. He’s having a great time being in control and doing his thing and being really sexy unapologetically. Why is he like that? It doesn’t matter and/or he just is. That’s all you needed.
And he’s also the villain that people actually liked in this expansion so…
Glad to see that after Danuser and his minions spend an entire expansion claiming SL is the “Concluding chapter of Warcraft’s story that started in Warcraft 3” we get an ending that hints at an even bigger threat than the superer awesomer Jailer who is bigger and badder than anything Metzen and co. could ever conceive.
I hope we get back to collecting bear arses again soon instead of going on this weird powercreep trip we’ve been on since WoD.
Nothing I can really say that feels adequate to critique this mess. Having had a good, long, glance at the twitter of certain writers, especially Danuser (good lord) it’s not really any surprise they couldn’t write a decent story if it was outlined to them in crayon. I usually try not to be negative, especially since this is my second post since a long hiatus but I’m starting to miss BFA, BFA was mostly bad. Even glancing back at the Zandalari cinematics I feel envious. So that’s not good.
Tramples lore with retcons.
Retcons leave gaping plotholes.
Literally Undead Sargeras and his Undeading Legion.
No innovation content wise it’s all stuff rehashed from previous expansions. (Zeratul Mortals is horrifically similar to Nazj’atar)
Glad to see the back of slands.
last thing I want to do is defend current lore
and maybe Mandela shot me with his mind beams.
but I seem to recall hearing that azerite was just a red pretty looking ore/gem looking thing until the sword was thrusted into the planet.
Also two thoughts on the cin’s
Am I supposed to get the picture that this was a plan in the making since before anyone even knew azeroth was a titan baby? because thats what I am getting from this vague-xplaining, which ofc means the jailer somehow knew about baby titan inside azeroth before anyone else.
and ofc he needed some overly noble sounding goal to guilt trip us into thinking he was a good guy, seriously it didn’t work for sarg, it ain’t working for him either.
he could have been redeemed and joined us.
That could have been worse.
Overall the story is flat.
there rarely is any actual shake up in the current order, it all comes full circle and the episode ends, see you next week, when the next episodic bad guy shows up and we all learn a valuable lesson about friendship and forgiveness.
“A friend of mine who had played the original Warcraft and Warcraft II RTS games- long before World of Warcraft, even before Warcraft III – said to me, ‘I think you should give [Blizzard] a shot. They’re a really good company, they care a lot about their lore’,” says Golden.
I laughed, especially since they did care about lore back then
Saw a bunch of people on twitter in some content creators feed saying that everyone who is negative about the cutscene should stop, because the majority of players and creators dont care about the story.
