PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 2)

Make that TWO THREE(?) Night Elf Themed Specs!

Druid of the Claw is the most interesting Druid Hero Talent tree shown thus far, which might come as a surprise for a spec designed around an ability super cleverly called ‘Massive Attack’, but alas - the other ones are simply awfully boring in design and gameplay.

I had such high hopes for Keeper of the Grove and they decided to do the worst thing with it, Elune’s Chosen doubles down on the cosmic :poop: , Wildstalker’s mildly interesting with extremely boring talents… and here we are.

:pensive::fist:

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Thats because Night Elves are the superiour race.

:smirk:

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Sentinel.
Keeper of the Grove (anyone who says this isn’t NElf themed is lying)
Chosen of Elune.
And now Hellcaller brings us to four.

I unironically hope someone burns down Bel’ameth.

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I do not wish to see the Nelf community complain specifically about underrepresentation or being abandoned ever again. This race gets something specific every god damn expansion whilst the rest of us rot.

They’re even getting a new HD Capital before the rest of us.

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“God, ants why are you complaining? The magnifying glass is focussed on you so damn much!”

Leave. Us. Alone!

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Can’t really fault fans of specific races for complaining about underrepresentation now, can you?

Everyone does this for their favorite race. And its up to Blizzard to find a fine line between them all, since they are the ones who bloated the game with (Allied-)races!

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Still weeps about not even having seamless model

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You can when NElves haven’t been “underrepresented” for the last decade and a half.

:frowning:

-Monkeys Paw curls, all Elves re-unite in Quel’thalas/Surumar, join the Alliance en mass-

Get Allied, idiot.

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Enjoy the lines and folds!

We’re probably getting this anyway. I’m fully expecting Midnight to be a windrunner story. :smiling_face: :gun:

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Maybe it’s actually about the horse in Kara.

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We don’t actually have a description for Sentinels yet and while the Hellcaller is oddly specific, I wouldn’t go so far as to say that it’s night elf themed just because satyrs are degenerate night elves.

But I am willing to agree that Elune’s Chosen and Keeper of the Grove are undeniably night elf themed and considering how closely tied the druid class is to night elves, that’s sort of understandable to me.

However, one complaint that I do have is how some of these hero talent fantasies are so much more specific than the others. Some of them have very strong themes, like the Rider of the Apocalypse who draws upon their connection to the Four Horsemen, or the Conduit of the Celestials who summons the power of the Celestials with their abilities. If these things are graphically represented, these hero talent trees will have a very strong fantasy.

… And then you have Spellslinger and Pack Leader and Slayer. A mage who conjures nondescript magical crystals to augment their attack, a hunter who has a strong bond with their bestial companions (isn’t that just Beast Mastery already?) and a warrior who is single-mindedly devoted to the killing of his target. These all come across as basic, nondescript, disconnected from the lore and flavourless next to the likes of the above.

I know it’s hard to find almost forty concepts of equal thematic weight, but I would appreciate if Blizzard tried to either make all of them more generic or all of them more thematic. As it stands, it will be weird to have a Rider of the Apocalypse summoning the power of the Four Horsemen next to a Pack Leader who… just has pets that fight good.

As for the mechanics, I have mixed feelings. Others seem pretty well-designed, while others do appear to be founded on proc-based stuff and RNG.

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This is literally how I expect Midnight to go already.

It’s up to Blizzard to prove me wrong.

Come on man

We thought that the Herald of the Sun would be tauren-themed and look how that turned out.

Tauren getting ignored is par for the course though.

I think it’s the same basic problem as Legion where some classes have extremely broad fantasies, which makes it difficult to capture anything too specific, or attempting to capture anything specific invariably leads to more complaints. Assuming you even can capture the vague feel of a specific class/spec fantasy through a series of talents.

I remember the complaints that the Warrior Order Hall was a weird vrykul-themed side faction instead of being Warrior specific outside of the vague idea of Valhalla being a Warrior Afterlife, while people said other Order Halls were too specific in the wrong direction (like Monk being all about Brewmaster instead of making you feel like a Monk).

Either you capture a specific fantasy and exclude the people who don’t vibe with it or you don’t and exclude people anyway because it’s too broad, or doesn’t capture their specific niche interest or expectation.

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I mean, while the Warrior Order Hall did not fit any playable race…

I did love it. I vibed so much with that Order Hall, much more then any other Order Hall! Oh, I also loved Acherus!

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