PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 2)

Some of it’s quite bad, some of it I think’s an issue of realistic vs Game Mechanics scaling?

Like, no way in heck that Kul Tiras is that big compared to the entire Eastern Kingdoms, but at the same time no way the game world EK is that small, surely?

I wonder if Dynamic Flight/speed will let them actually expand the landmass meaningfully if/when they get around to reworks for the old world…?

'Scuse me- -takes a MASSIVE hit of Copium-

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I’m starting to suspect the writers forgot what Arathi was, like with Anima and The Other Anima.

That said, being a staunch supporter of Human Potential the idea of this enormous human empire that worships Turbo Light just existing on the other side of the world completely irrelevant to all the perils and plights we have fought since Warcraft 1 is incredibly funny to me.

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I like how an expedition that almost failed managed urban development better than the two factions in the space of 15 years.

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I find it just as egregious that they keep calling it an Empire when it’s only controlling the Arathi as a single entity. A Horde Warchief has more credance in calling themself an Emperor than a single Human Kingdom that has also abandoned its land of origins. Thoradin was the only one fitting the title of Emperor.

I too tire of ol’ mystical land that nobody found out because magic mists and whatnot… There are people whose profession is literally exploring and cartography, I’d expect them to be more on the forefront of these discoveries than anybody else.

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I’m sure them pivoting dramatically and suddenly on the amount of time they’ve been there isn’t going to make the rest of the story and supporting world building fall apart. They’ll have thought to fix all of that alongside it rather than just change a number, I’m sure.

Stares into the camera

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Ya’ll gonna set me off about Lore Bibles, consistency, etc etc.

Y’don’t want that…

They’ve been saying since Vanilla that there’s something on the other side of the Forbidding Sea, but it’s too difficult to traverse making most ships never return, with cryptic references to “something” out there calling the murlocs and makrura. The Arathi also reference this in their dialogue in TWW about how their expedition nearly got wiped out by the storms.

It’s like one of the primary old mysteries of the setting.

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The copium tanks are depleting but a decent twist could be that, in actuality, when this expedition was teleported they went through time as well. The empire they refer to is the Arathi of old. And the storming sea is the ocean between EK and Kalimdor.

But eh. Think a time-lost expedition would be more interesting than “bros you’d never guess but there’s an empire right over there.”

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They probably shouldn’t have shown us a bunch of globes in Titan facilities like the one in Algalon’s room and also given us space travel then.

Oh I guess the Titans just missed an entire other continent other than the Pangaea in Chronicles. Whoopsie!!! I guess when Aman’thul was reaching down to tear Y’shaarj from the planet he blinked and missed it. Must’ve had something in his eye.

All the magic in the world, all the spells and abilities of the shaman, mages, dragons, all of that and they’re baffled by some storms that - by the Arathi’s own admittance - can be navigated?

Not only that, but this Arathi Empire’s first port of order for their expedition was a hole in the ground and not their ancestral homes?

It’s farcical man.

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Another issue is now if there is truly some off shoot of old Arathi Empire on the other side, if there will be answered how they fared with the world ending threats, don’t tell me that have not seen Argus in the sky a that not even one Legion battalion invaded them. Don’t tell me they noticed nothing during Cataclysm and DF when elements were crazy. Don’t tell me that nobody over there fell into insanity when N’Zoth almost succesfuly corruped Azeorth and that they felt nothing when The Veil was shattered, opening the way into Shadowlands. Even damn elemental in a cave in DF akcnowledges most of these things…

If their Emperor is descendant from Thoradin than it’s alright. I guess.

I meant Thoradin. Thoradin was the only Human I know who fits the title of Emperor. I don’t know or remember when the individual human states began being independant from Arathi control but for a time yes, you could say that Human had a genuine Empire.

Same goes for the Kaldorei, I think you could stretch it to the Zandalari before the Empire of Zul disbanded after the Gurubashi, Amani and Drakkari settled in the lands they took from the Aqir. Dwarves had a good run too. Everybody else only ever has had Kingdoms at best.

Clearly Argus was orbiting with Azeroth in the same direction and the other side of the planet was never affected.

:clown_face:

I’m more interested what landmass is meant to exist on the other side. Are they going to retcon Old Kalimdor being the main/single continent pre-Sundering into just being the big one on one side?

Amani, Gurubashi and Drakkari empires disagree.

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cough New Hearthglen cough

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You jest but that very much happened in the Drustvar Horde questing experience with Hobar or whatever is that Goblin named.

It makes some of the stagnancy that came with the recent exploring Azeroth books pretty insulting tbf.

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This would actually be a nice twist I think. And then they find out they travelled so much forward in time that the world is pretty much alien to them, leaving them with the question “Alright, now what the hell do we do?”

Town in a Box and other similar goblin inventions is an inferior product compared to GHIFB.
Truly he was the best Warchief.

Timeless Isle is already a concept due to the Mists of Pandaria. An entire Island fixed in a single point in time, never changing. So yeah, don’t go roaming into misty places on Azeroth as its proven to be time related shennanigans.

And just like the blue and red pandaren, the demon hunters and soon the dracthyr…

They will never be given one.

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