That is just such a cut-throat combination. The fact their not killing each other seems a miracle unto itself
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I uh. Iām not sure how disenfranchised Bandits from Stormwind, the highwaymen dregs of a demolished kingdom and Lordaeron zealots somehow all got together and teamed up to instigate a faction conflict.
Itās quite something.
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Seems to be operating by invoking a shared heritage of humanity, and the given groups are all:
- Remnants of a devasted kingdom/eroded establishment of a previous human kingdom. (Alterac, Stormwind, Lordaeron)
- Betrayed/unaffiliated/skewed away from the Alliance. (Alterac betrayed them first, Defias was cast aside by the Stormwind House of Nobles, the Scarlets are just plain too zealous for anyone.)
Desperate times and a little mythical nationalism does wonders!
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Oh, it can work for two of them. The Defias bandits are a bit of a curveball, admittedly.
Think it would have been easier to have them be coming from souls disenchanted with the truce and bitter about not āfinishing the Horde offā. Rather than uniting the Knights Templar, the Mafia and Dick Turpin but eh. Iām just picking.
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Killing all the human supremacists on a vulpera to rub salt in the wounds.
Like yeah man, humans totally dominant, the best of the best, got their 
kicked in by a two foot tall fox whose most notable associate is an idiot who canāt stop singing about her llamas.
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A bit disappointing, really - thereās some very valid reasons for various individuals on both sides of the faction conflict to want nothing to do with each other and even demand retribution for the horrific war-crimes inflicted upon their loved ones.
So it is a shame that any such concerns are oh-so-conveniently thrown in with these over the top extremist groups and limited exclusively to humans at that.
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Mhmm. Think this is how theyāre tiptoeing around faction conflict. You see its not the REAL Alliance, its all the super racist bad guys that the Alliance have beefed with previously, too. But some of them who worked with tauren and goblins are now actually super racists too.
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This is the part that really bugs me tbh. What reason do the Defias have for this? Even if not Van Cleefs absolutely valid workers getting theirs Defias and the more āyeah were just cut-throatsā we saw in the Human Heritage their presence and contribution to whats going on in Arathi makes absolutely no narrative sense.
hey im all for killing off a few more racists from azeroth but at least make it make sense
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that idiot not associated with me, its me and me vulture here.
all im hearing is its gonna be a good time for forsaken and orcs to go open-season
It really does seem like a double standard.
If this is supposed to be the Allianceās morally grey moment, the fact that it is led by characters invented exclusively to serve as scapegoats and that everyone who is taking part in it isnāt a ārealā member of the Alliance really undermines it. Itās just further evidence that the Alliance isnāt allowed to be evil.
Oh well, itās a kick in the teeth for the people who were looking forward to some official faction warfare. āTensions are rising,ā only to be shut the hell down in a manner which is as cut and dry and as morally unambiguous as you can get.
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Additionally, thereās another batch of T2 recolours that might be coming out in 11.1.7.
And somehow, Lorewalker Cho unearths the true origins of Xalāatath.
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It is difficult not to notice that Danath Trollbane is portrayed as very diplomatic towards the Horde here and in Heartlands, which isā¦ not particularly consistent with his characterisation prior. In Danathās eyes and in his dialogue, the orcs have always been coupled with the Burning Legion he fought on Outland - in these stories he doesnāt indulge Marran for a second, and it is never explained when or how he changed his mind.
I get it - you mellow out, when you get older - but it feels very jarring because there was no visible arc for him in 11.0.
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I love(?) how EVERY recolour of that Hunter set is better than the original. Kind of hilarious tbh.
literally the recolour I like of the set too.
The TBC recolour.
But yeah, I did try for a meme to wear the OG one on one of my drac hunters 9whose very blackwing lair pilled) and I just canāt.
Also teaseā¦ they give a recolour of the parts of the paladin set from the wrath pre event AND STILL NO PURPLE RECOLOUR?!
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the warrior set tooā¦my jaw dropped
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The paladin one does kinda make me want to drag my fem belf out of retirement. She was based on that art of the belf in normal judgement set but i think a blood knight recolour would suit.
Give me that evoker set!
They explain it in the last texts you get at the Arāgorok quests, and by then, we already know the answer:
Not very well. Their alliance dissolves like cotton candy in water once things are set in motion.
Also, fun fact: Marranās collaborator, Colonel Nials, whom is Captain Nials all the way back in Cataclysm, is the person who sends you to make an ally of Joseph the Awakened, the former name of Joseph the Enlightened. Thatās a 15 years-long call back to a random dungeon fetch quest being made into a plot point of a mini-patch.
Thatās kind of cool.
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/npc=2700/captain-nials
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/quest=26982/the-scarlet-monastery
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Danath is the person that yelled how the orcs would look good floating in Stromgardeās moat as they are monsters.
That was a few ingame years ago, its jarring how he went from that to Orcs are my Besties 
lets give them the majority of my kingdom.
Also, I just want a red recolour of the Stormwind Footman set, to go with the Stromgarde tabard!
Also, guess Iāll have to dust of my Stromic human for this!
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