Potato, potahto. When is it considered Archaeology, anyways?
They got wiped out, so none of them exists anymore, so this is archeaology!
On a more serious note; Archaeology in Warcraft is weird anyways. With factions like the Shenâdralar, Moon Guard and races like the Shalâdorei being a thing, could anyone ever actually claim things from the Kaldorei Empire, when these two are literally remnants and a continuation of said Empire? And thats without involving the Thalassian Elves or Night Elves, who apparently donât give a hoot about their Kaldorei Empire history, since they evolved beyond them!
Arathi Empire sounds cooler with the day.
They donât want any heathen under their banner!
But yea, if Harrowfall is a extension of the Empire, then its doing a terrible job painting itself as one when there is just one dude casually asking yourself to proof yourself if youâre a Warlock, Demon Hunter, Void Elf or Forsaken⌠The rest just shrugs and goes on with itđ¤
Faerin Lothar says: Vast, powerful, and bathed in the Light⌠the Empire is a force to be reckoned with.
will someone ask her what forces the empire has contended with 'cos it looks like we were the ones dealing with the fourteen dozen world ending threats over the last 20 years, while the âvast and powerfulâ Arathi Empire was nowhere to be seenâŚ
This Emperor of theirs just decided that the fate of the world in a battle against an enemy from outer space just wasnât worth showing up. âThey got this.â he said or potentially worse âThe fel fire will cull the unclean from the old world giving us free reign to make it our own once the Demons have destroyed them both.â
Faerin Lothar says: To be honest, Iâm not sure how kindly the mainland would take to the⌠variety of peoples you all keep company with.
Faerin Lothar says: We in Hallowfall know beggars canât be choosers. We need all the help we can get. And you all have proven to be fine folk. But the Empire is not so⌠open minded. Or so desperate.
The Empire, seemingly, hasnât had to deal with such a large threat that couldnât be surmmounted by being more open to what help youâre willing to get. Hallowfall, on another hand, doesnât have that luxury.
I wouldn´t mind that, but who are the Sharans in this scenario? We need a nation that´s going to be gaslit into following the Void to save their people.
âThe Other side of Azerothâ continues to be a terrible idea for the sake of consistency and coherency because you canât just make a mega-continent Empire led by literal God-Emperors and then go âhaha yeah theyâre actually, like, totally super strong and stuffâ meanwhile they havenât dealt with anything remotely problematic or world-ending meanwhile the average Stormwind farmer is fighting off eldritch monstrosities, an endless crusade of Demons and occasionally the odd bandit as well. How are they going to explain how theyâre so powerful or what theyâve been doing whilst weâve been doing [Literally Everything]. Blizzard I beg reconsider please the continuity is broken enough.
Are they powerful because theyâve dominated the other side of the planet, or do they consider themselves powerful because they havenât had to deal with anything on our side of the continent?
Do keep in mind, all this is said from the point of view of people who are in an expedition on the brink of failure and total wipeout, only saved by us at the last moment, cut away from the Empire since over fifteen years ago.
I wholly assume Blizzard is writing it as the former, but it would logically be the latter by the time the PC actually sets eyes on the Mega-Continent (whatever its called). If anything you might be able to logically extend that they think theyâre powerful because they seem to have steampunk-esque technology, but even that pales in comparison to, uh, well really all the Draenei and Gnome technology Iâd think.
Yea I got that, what I meant is, even if you have to accept any help you can get, there is literally just one random dude who decides on âHey, wait we donât sctually know if they use their powers for good, maybe we should test them or make thrm proof itâ and he is a rando side questgiver⌠The rest just openly welcomes you like they always had people like Void Elves, Forsaken or Demon Hunters amongst them.
Literally Void-/Fel mutated beings and zombies and everyone just like âNaaah, this will be fineâ.
Thats what annoys me(unless I missed something and nobody is accepted wit open arms?)
Lmao. Average farmer Joe saw more of the world then Arathorâs Emperors
I think this has however been more or less the case since the beginning of WoW. Sometimes the quests you are doing don´t really make sense for the race/class you are. The assumption there can just be that ICly, these quests were done by appropriate person.
In Vanilla, you can be a paladin that waltzes into secret warlock basement and helps them poison a noble who is onto them.
In TBC, you can be an undead warlock that is being given audience with A´dal and tour of Shattrath by Khadgar´s personal servant.
In Wrath, you can be a death knight who recruits taunka into the Horde (or in general, just the fact that you´re a DK and people don´t auto attack you is weird).
In Legion, nobody took an issue with you being a demon hunter.
And in BfA, being a void elf gave, as far as I know, no unique NPC or quest text. Hell, somehow everyone was OK with using Void to raise corpses.
If anything, Blizzard giving unique questline for the races and classes that don´t fit is a step up from what we had in the past.
I mean, obviously it kinda is a shortcoming of WoW!
But even then, it doesnât make it less anoying that there is only one person in the whole expedition that goes â these are literal Zombies/Void-Infused beings/Demons, maybe they should proof themselvesâ only fpr another NPC to say he should stop being so distrustful or whatever it was.
I mean the dude has every reason to distrust literal Demons and Void beings, but for some reason its shot down.
My point is, if Harrowfall is an extension of the Arathi Empire, then it does a poor job of showing how people from the Arathi Empire are. Even if theyâre in dire need of help, people donât usually just randomly loose everything that made them what they are, prejudices and all included. I feel there should be alot more ââ going on between the Arathi and the influx of a zillion races that appeared to help them.
Eitherway, I think its a pretty cool zone and storyline anyways, and I canât wait to see which way this goes!
That might honestly just be my characterâs reaction, even if he is a paladin.
Donât mention her name or you will draw her attention.
Seems they chose the Nerubians for that scenario, though that comparison doesnt entirely work since the insectoid races are all willing Void-worshippers anyhow.
I forgot who it was in this thread, but I liked that fan-theory that the Arathi Empire was actually the Empire of old, and the storm they passed through to get here was actually a time-storm a la Final Countdown.
Ofc it wouldnât make any sense and it would cause a hell of a lot of continuity errors but, I did like the idea of it.
these are literal Zombies/Void-Infused beings/Demons, maybe they should proof themselvesâ only fpr another NPC to say he should stop being so distrustful or whatever it was.