PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 4)

Instead, you now join 12 different WoW discords while also having to jump between the different voice channels of each different discord to try and get information to people who aren’t in a certain discord channel

Also I feel like you’re acting oddly defensive when someone doesn’t know about the different discords or the different campaigns they organise, might just me misreading it, though!

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It’s possible that they are involved in communities and were involved in campaigns which have occurred, which could have led to frustration when the existence of these communities and campaigns is challenged.
It can be irritating when someone complains about a problem, when you believe that you are providing a solution to that problem. It makes you want to say “if it’s such a problem, then take this solution instead of just whining.”

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Because I think it only harms RP when someone goes “Nothing ever happens” despite the fact that something is actually happening.

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I get it can be irritating and anoyying, and yes even harmfull to RP to a smaller extent, but replying in the manner that happened also harms the prospect of people joining those discords, because now they some someone overly defensive react and now they can think that those discords might not be as welcoming or open as they try to appear to be.

If you get what I mean?

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I get what you mean, but I don´t think it harms the prospects in any way because I don´t see connection between someone being defensive about the notion that RP actually happens (it just doesn´t get advertised on forums that, let´s be honest, are not visited by majority of RPers or on a third party page) and people thinking this means the discords themselves are somehow not welcoming to people.

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Circling back to this, it appears to have kept its five minute cooldown and 10 minute duration, so I will accept I was wrong…

however, it disappears when mounted, the buff ends while in combat, and there’s no looting animation, meaning you still gotta prism hop if you wanna do anything other than chatting around town. Fun partially detected, I suppose.

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The lean emote being used everywhere is gonna prompt theories that it’s a religious ritual meant to keep buildings from collapsing for everyone who does it is taking a vow of silence and solemnity.

Also can someone confirm to me that K’aresh was indeed a world destroyed 100K years ago because we’re getting an even more ridiculous chronology.

It’ll turn out to be 10k probably. Everything happened then.

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When did Argus get destroyed 25k years ago?

Yea sure, lets just triple it after more then doubling the farthest away point in Azerothian History(Warcraftian?)

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13k. It was changed for reasons that exist.

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Wait, when and how was that changed?

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It was 25k years for a good decade and then poof! 13k.

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What in tarnation???

No explanation nothing?

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You’d have to Google it, I can only remember the numbers.

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Khadgar’s dialogue in the Legion quest https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Bringer_of_the_Light suggests that the Draenei have been fleeing for 13k years.

Though it’s not exactly clear how he knows that number.

But this is contradicted by other things, like the Velen’s Future Sight legendary which states that Velen has led the draenei for 25,000 years. Perhaps reductive, but if the draenei only fled 13k years ago, then before that they were…well, Eredar.

I’m actually struggling to find a definitive source which says they left 25,000 years ago. Was it just supposition the whole time?

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I mean, maybe they used Draenei for non-lore/RP-bro’s to not make it murky?

I dunno?

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The Burning Crusade Town Hall, which served as the first exposure we had to eredar/draenei lore, started with this:

Nearly twenty-five thousand years ago, the eredar race arose on the world of Argus. They were extremely intelligent and had a natural affinity for magic in all its myriad forms. Using their gifts, they developed a vast and wondrous society. Unfortunately the eredar’s accomplishments caught the attention of Sargeras, the Destroyer of Worlds. He had already begun his Burning Crusade to eradicate all life from the cosmos, and he believed that the brilliant eredar would be pivotal in leading the vast demonic army he was gathering. Thus, he contacted the eredar’s three most prominent leaders: Kil’jaeden, Archimonde, and Velen. In exchange for the loyalty of the eredar race, Sargeras offered untold power and knowledge.

It implies that all of this happened twenty-five thousand years ago, it does not suggest a gap of twelve thousand years between the eredar race rising and their corruption by Sargeras. Hence, most people probably assumed there was no gap and went with their corruption occurring at the same time as their rise.

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Personally I’d be inclined to take the above as what it is and ignore Khadgar (wasn’t the only time he was wrong during Legion) to revert back to the previously held 25k.

And frankly, Blizzard should do the same.

25k or 100k are merely numbers at this point. They can write whatever they want, but as long as the story is sloppy at best, few people would care anyway.

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