You have to do it. RDF was a big part of the experience and fun in Wrath.
What really ruined the RDF tool was it being cross-realm.
Making it non cross-realm have not only all the benefit of the tool (focusing doing other stuff while in queue, instead of click refresh every 10 seconds and spam “inv”, or waiting hours for an actual invite), but i will probably find the same people i already grouped up before, and thats a good thing because if you can recognize people and guilds, you start feeling the community on your server.
Of course this will happen even without the RDF, but here i am making a point about the reason of the removal of RFD, that not stand up.
RDF cannot hurt or ruin the social aspect of the game, if it is not cross-realm.
Please reconsider your decision, i only see people asking the same thing, are you blind, Blizzard?
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The best would be something like.
After much consideration we decided to test out rdf in the pre-patch.
To see how it impacts the players and the world.
Regarding what we find we may reconsider adding it to wotlk in its original form or an updated form regarding its performance during the pre-patch of wotlk.
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Although I am mainly against rdf, the point is that we and Blizzard don’t know out of actuall experience how rdf will work out in classic.
At this point most of it is just people projecting their own ideals upon it without having anny real experience with it in classic.
NoChanges would be Imo the best route to all of classic.
But what Blizz is doing now, no matter the desired design pillars it claims to want to uphold, changing the game with no real experience as to what is actually the best thing to do.
We can only hope? No hope was lost a long time ago, so what are we to do?
Actually no.
RDF was originally NOT a part of Wrath, it came at the end of Wrath.
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I’d just like to say I really appreciate you being willing to see the other side of this argument.
I’ve tried to like the new LFG tool, I really have, but it’s just hopeless
I can already hear all the people rushing in to tell you that nearly a year isnt “end of wotlk”
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And why wouldn’t they? Half is not the end no matter how you slice it.
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I just wanted to make fun of him for using the lamest argument since like the start of whole RDF discussion
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The, ‘it came later in wrath’ argument is so ridiculous.
We are getting everything from up to the latest patch, including manny things that weren’t there first day/week/month of original wotlk launch.
We haven’t had anny progression through minor patches, other than unlocking raids, gear, quests, etc.
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And the “it was a core part of the wotlk experience” is a more sensible argument when it wasn’t there for most of the expansion?
It is. Ask anyone who played wrath the question. What things do you remember the most . They will among other things say RDF
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Dual talents feature was added later too. … and we are playing the latest patch
Yeah, clown company
If Blizzactivision really want to protect social aspects of the game, BAN THE F***ING BOTS, BAN DKP and BOOST spam on TRADE, LFR and GLOBAL chat. Make them their own channels so they dont bother normal players. Who wants to participate, they will log the channels made for that.
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Dual talents was added 5 months after launch and it doesn’t negatively affect the social dynamics (it negatively affects the class/role identity but that’s a different topic).
The issue with RDF is that it negatively affect the social dynamics. Without RDF your friendslist, guild and the community you take part in have a very high value.
RDF not only devalues those things but it also devalues leveling, dungeons and farming gear. Suddenly you can easily spam dungeons from lvl 15+ with no effort and that waters down the whole experience and negatively affects the social dynamics.
RDF was originally added along ICC in the last phase of the expansion. It was never part of the major original experience for players who transitioned from TBC to Wotlk like we are doing now.
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Even with RDF you still prefer doing 5 man content with your friends, guild and communities you take part in.
Nevermind how you do literally everything else in the game with those groups.
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Ofc we prefer that but when we can super easily spam dungeons nilly willy 24/7 at any level it devalues that experience so much that it’s rarely worth the effort to form premade groups for easy wotlk dungeons.
RDF basically destroys the value of dungeons and instead turns this group experience into a solo grind with players you will never meet again.
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Ok, so you’re devaluing your friendships cause WotLK dungeons are easy. Gotcha.
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nope. RDF should not be added. Only people i see that ask for RDF often have problematic personalities, or atleast i dont want to play with them. So i can see why some would want it.
Obviously im not speaking about the people in this thread, but players overall.
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Yes when friends and allies can login and queue up for a dungeon solo at anytime from anywhere with no effort they will most likely not be very interested in spending time and effort to create a group manually. It totally devalues these social interactions and makes them obsolete for dungeons.
So how important are those social connections to you, really?
Then don’t. RDF doesn’t force you to play with anyone you don’t sign up to play with.
I am talking about the value of those social connections. When we don’t have an automated group finder that teleports you to instanced content cross realm from anywhere with no effort our friends list have a huge value and the dungeons have a high value.
RDF is more more more with less less less effort. I don’t think that is good game design in an mmorpg. It doesn’t make the content better or more fun. It kust makes it easier to spam.
You’re literally sitting here suggesting that you’d ditch your friends for some easy badges or whatever in a heartbeat if RDF was added.
I’m pro RDF and I’d still prefer playing with my friends and would do so any chance I get.
Curious.
Meanwhile, every modern MMO has something like it implemented. WoW lead the charge on this and now it’s going back on it for obscure reasons.
It makes content more accessible yes. That’s the whole point. Congratulations on figuring that out.