Well… I get 0 myth gear for a whole lot of effort in M+.
If handouts is what it takes to have it… Why not. Its not like those people all of a sudden will start doing +17s …
The only condition I would put is that if any one of them sais that they are bored because they are max gear and OW/Delves are too easy… they get instantly banned.
You don’t have to make a group, Ill do it and by this point I am sure there are enough people on these forums that want to play with you that it will be the equvalent of an ista-queue XD.
Hehehe, the problems I have with it, are:
For me WoW is relaxation. I don’t want it to feel like a job. Having responsibilities towards others makes it feel like a job. I just want to care about myself and do my thing.
And then yeah… I guess you guys do smell. 
And I appreciate the thought, I do.
But that still leaves some of the reasons I’ve stated above in this post. Playing with others just makes me uncomfortable.
Queueing keeps it anonymous. I’m a nobody. I don’t matter. And I like that.
We wont look for a group, like I said we can patch something up from the forums alone. Uda is very chill and Gloober doensnt know where he is half the time. Only thing we need is one more DPS and I have several people in mind.
Also no one from these people will judge you and thats a promise.
Its a group effort.
But a premade is more fun. No presure, just the occasional jokes in chat. Trust me it will be more chill than a random PuG/queue. Its like the forums but in game XD.
Not for me. 
Believe me, I’ve tried plenty of it over the years.
I don’t even enjoy playing WoW with my real life friends anymore. 
There are other activities I like doing with friends, but WoW just isn’t one of them.
It’s a ‘me’ thing. I enjoy being on my own; that’s when I thrive and relax.
Anyway, to steer back to the topic: I hope it’s like season 2 and we find out LFR works just fine for earning chips. 
I would like it to be like the bullion system was even more, but at this point I think that’s a fool’s hope.
Do Normal-only raiders?
Do Heroic-only raiders?
Do Mythic-only raiders, who already have the equipment?
Do M+ers who do 10s?
Does anyone need higher ilvl upgrade?
Everyone that aims to push above what they currently are doind needs the gear. I guess his argument is that LFR players dont tend to do anything above LFR.
Which is a fallacy and very selfish.
Even people who just go out and do overworld stuff, not even Delves on Tier 4, will find use on better gear.
You’re absolutely right if I had to bet, the only people who are okay with this baffling cartel chip system that locks players out of certain gear types behind mythic raid bosses are WoW boosters and those who don’t want others to enjoy the game. These are definitely not the kind of players Blizzard should be focusing on.
It is an event let people play the content they want to play and get 1 or 2 nice items it is as simple as that.
But find use =/= need. I mean you have like what? 6 months from beginning to end of season, and while 99.9% of this game can be completed with basic gear compansated with skill, for some reason or another people dont have said skill and cannot achieve it in 6 months. Hence the term “need”.
Oh and I am not against LFR counting fot cartel chips btw. I have other issies with the chips amd turbo boost as a whole.
That is true. And what causes the “need” in this case? The ticking clock on when content is going to be replaced and rewards will become unavailable.
Oh absolutely.
its nothing new though .
even back in wolk some trinkets from ToGC were bis for whole ICC HC for some classes untill RS HC trinket drop .
at the end of day - its just few itlv on item if you are pusher you care about bis more then about itlv in first place.
and if you re smart pusher you do what peopel have been doing since gearscore was intruduced - you equiped higherst itlv and then gear swaped to bis when you already were invited into group .
This. I am hilariously bad at wording my comments at this specific topic. My bad!
Well as long as you stay in the forums the fun can continue. It’s just a shame we cant continue the conversations on the /party. Its more efficient that way. 
There is a difference between ICC and today: There was no M+ back then. Raiding was the only high-end activity there was. So it was “fair” in that sense.
And the Dinar discussion has nothing to do with ilvl to get invited into a group.
The point is: Why is it that a Hero version of a raid trinket is better than a Myth version of an M+ trinket. That should not happen.
And dont get me started with Delves. There are 1 or 2 trinkets from Delves that even the Champion/Veteran version is better than a Myth M+ trinket…
Short answer ? Because 99 % of players dont really care.
They take whatever Has highest itlv and Play just fine.
You can have absolutely garbage trinkets and still get to 3k score when you get enough itlv and when you join enough groups.
People who care about this stuff are negligible minority
So according to your logic, if 99% of people don’t care, then who are Dinars for then? That’s right. For the 1% that do care.
So lets focus our discussion on that 1% of people.
In current iteration ? Yeah it seems like dinars are aimed at 1% of tryhards.
Most will just ignore this system because unless you RAID mythic most of things there are just trash not worth farming over mythic trinkets they already have from GV by now
Especialy with legion remix around corner and all those juicy transmogs / mountsto farm there - why would anyway sane farm dinars in retail instead - expansion is over anyway
The system sucks for other reasons. And it’s not aimed at 1% of tryhards. I was being sarcastic about it.
Define “sane”… its over for YOU. Not for others.
Besides. Be real. What are you going to do in Legion to farm all that Bronze? That’s right… M+… 
Like in Retail.
So you are trading one M+ for another M+ in the end. And you will push Legion M+ keys because a +45 gives max Bronze, and you can spam them (unlike the raid). So dont be a hypocrite about it. You will “tryhard Legion Remix” and push keys like everyone else.