PvE plebs already crying about PvP gearing

It’s only the beginning folks.
Show them your upvotes before the only good thing about Shadowlands PvP gets taken away from us.

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Lol @ people thinking pve is harder than pvp

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If he does not play arena he has no clue what he is talking about.

i just mean, i got 1800 on hunter playing mm/sub and just met 2 mirrors after 550 games, it was hardest 1800 for me since cata lol. But it was bunch of pvers with M+ / HC gear, which had over 5k hp difference between me until i got my chance to up my pvp gear to 220 ilvl.

He’s right at the point that’s was pretty ez for some classes, but if it easy - just do it. I can loot my 213 gear even after dying on pull lol

The beginning of what? People on this forum cross-posting threads and demonizing fellow posters in an environment of like-minded people where they can get away with violations of the Code of Conduct, such as name-calling?

Let us hope not.

Discuss topics, not people.

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PvP gearing atm is in a very good spot, i was playing M+ mainly and casual PvP. This is insane how lack of gear affect on M+ players, now u must live in M+ or do raids is mandatroy. This was unacceptable fore me and now i do only casual PvP.
So flag post who whine thats PvP gearing is bad instead, coz they are in general the main trolls in this game.

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i flagged him not because he is complaining about gear, but because he claims that PvP requires no skill/tactics

100% sure we’re going to get screwed over next season again. No doubt. They’re crying too loud.

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That’s just facepalm worthy.

He’s not even like “I want to have it as good as PvP’ers”, no, he’s like “Hey, these guys are having fun, pls nerf it”.

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Yes, he is not right. But something truth in his words is. I rarelly have seen really bad players with hight RIO score and have seen a lot of actually terrible players with 2.1 and 2.4 achi in PvP on busted classes, they are backpedal, clicking, dont use kick, CC and have no clue what to do. But i can do mistake and its only my vision.

people here claim certain specs or classes take no skill at all on a daily basis, but when a clueless player on the general section does the same you lose your mind

lol @ people with 0 xp in pve claiming to know anything about its difficulty

COmplaining about gearing system is one thing, but claiming that Pve is harder than PvP is something very different and simply false … Everytime when you go in a +15 mists the bosses will do the same thing which they did in the previous run… Everytime when you encounter a Raid boss he will do the same thing as before … Facing for example same 2 people in arena which you beated last game doesn’t mean that you will beat them again simply because behind the characters are actually thinking humans which can adapt and change their tactic … so please

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some specs / composition being easier than other don’t mean that PvP does not require more skill than PvE

its like you cant even read

?? How i am not reading… its looks like you dont

You mean like FDK?

let me spell it out for you: your perceived difficulty of pve content is worth nothing because you’re 3/10 HC and depleting +9s

call me an elitist or whatever, but that is the truth

is getting glad harder than mythic raiding? in terms of time investment definitely yes. getting duelist? probably around the same. anything lower than that? absolutely not.

my perceived difficulty of mythic raiding is much higher than playing at 1600 for example, because i’m trying my best to do the fights correctly and not be a detriment to my guild. on the other hand at 1600 i don’t even have to try to win, so the argument of human vs scripted is irrelevant

and don’t even get me started on the “nothing is scripted in pvp, its all random because human” fallacy

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No, like every META spec. Pandas WW thats backpedal, click and use only 2 spells - FoF and RSK and have 2300. PvP full of them, every patch people sit on busted spec, have no clue what to do, but class carry them.

I don’t quite get it. You have either a 20% chance or a 40% chance to get an item at the end of a dungeon. It is infinitely repeatable.

Conquest gives you 0.75 items a week. You can choose your item which is a plus, but how can it be faster than M+?

Honestly the PvP gear was what initially pushed me over the anxiety threshold to really give PvP a serious try this expac and i haven’t had this much enjoyment from WoW in years, so imo this was a great change.

I would hope it encourages more people to participate in PvP rather than spite the people that do.

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Getting a 233 weapon from pve is way harder than it is to get a 233 weapon from pvp right now