Whatever happened to PvP these past expansions . It feels so boring and repetitive . Every class I try feels more of the same thing .
The whole thing revolves around survive burst , use cc , kill someone in your burst . Every single class in every single spec . Some do more running around than others or do more cc, but at the core it is the same : survive, cc , burst .
Whatever happened to playstyles like affly and shadow priest in tbc , where you drain mana and life to play for a survival game .
Where are the support classes like shaman , paladin and druid , who provided buffs and of-heals instead of going for the kill .
You had classes with overall pressure and high burst , but low mobility .
You had classes with cc that relied on cornering you in a mistake .
You even had glass cannons bursts that relied on one shotting you from the get go or die trying .
You had so many combos which paired these between each other to counter each classes weakness against a specific comp .
What do we have now ?
Stack dps with the highest burst , cc and defensives into one team . If the healer can dps that is even better .
Focus the enemy with the lowest defensive the whole game .
Repeat .
Someone thought that having everything on one char was fun . Well now you have it and everything is BORING .
Every game is a repeat of the same and PvP has turned into a measure of who can burst more and who can counter it the best . That is all .
I could care less if it is chaos bolt , sniper shot , mortal strike or full moon doing the one shotting . Its still the same mechanic and it is sooo boring .
The moment someone invents some a way of doing a play style other than survive , burst , cc , this gets nerfed into the ground to make sure everything is the same color of boring .
Anyone as bored as me or are you having fun one/two/three shotting people with a different color button every week the hotfixes pass .
Different classes, same mechanics. Itâs either âuse a spell to charge a power barâ or âuse a spell to charge your combo pointsâ, the dump it in a powerful spell and repeat.
gave everyone everything and we still suffer very hard till now from hybrid design , while i agree hybrid design more balance but might aswell get rid of classes all together and let us choose what spells we want to use so you can be DK and use druid stuff too and make custom classes at this point
only class i ever have fun with it is demo lock duo to its uniqueness and complexity
while mages yes can feel fun sometimes , they get blasted so hard by melees zug zug , since if melee ever get low from your kite can simply stand behind pillar to LOS you and wait for their heal
Iirc itâs not legion but late bfa when they were starting to give every single class ms and make every spec almost work with everything cause they thought (and a lot of players too) that the game would be more fun and alive.
I was wrong I guess we need to get back to a time when you had to chose a comp with a real synergy and remove all ms beside war/felguard/rogue like before.
Whether playing DPS (Damage Per Second) in WoW PvP feels boring is subjective and can depend on individual preferences. Some players enjoy the dynamic and fast-paced nature of dealing damage, while others might find it repetitive. If youâre finding it monotonous, you could try experimenting with different DPS classes or specializations, exploring various PvP scenarios, or adjusting your playstyle to keep things more engaging. Itâs also essential to consider the current state of class balance and game mechanics, as these factors can influence the overall experience.
So how far back are we talking? Before monks existed? xd
Quite sure WW monks have had it for quite a long time. Just cant remember fully if it was released with it.
I see your point. Classes are homogenized these days. Everyone has movement abilities, defensive abilities, offensive abilities, etc. and itâs mostly a game of trading cooldowns.
For better or worse, this is the âmodernâ class design. Other designs were explored in the past (f.e. ranged survival had no single offensive CD; paladin and death knight had no movement increase abilities etc.) but all those playstyles were ruled out as not fun. Therefore every class has dedicated abilities of each category now
You probably right monk got ms since along time, but I mean when I started to be a better pvp player I remember playing with a friend Feral/sp and we were struggling cause back in the day ms was mandatory (or you had to play a comp with broken dmg to compensate).
The I was happy when they made everything work with everything almost but then I realized super fast that it was a big mistake, even though at first I thought it would be easier to find players cause of comp diversity but itâs horrible for the game.
Didnt mean to specifically call out you, my apologies.
It is a bit ironic isnt it tho?
The difference was in MoP you could easly get griefed and CC chained for 40+ seconds, I am sure the players here complaining about sweaty games, games being too fast paced and meeting glads at 1.6k rating would love that instead.
No, thatâs what turned me off doing pvp since shadowlands pre-patch. Itâs not fun, and i donât feel like Iâm displaying any skill oneshotting folks with a sub rogue combo or charging in with the hunt from the other side of the map(okay, that feels great to be fair but still (: )to kill them in a burst or just survive for a few minutes just because iâm a healer. Iâm glad that there are people enjoying it, but Iâd rather run some keys or get a pretty piece for one of my many transmog sets than this.
BFA hit like wet noodle ?
My experience of BFA was the only time occurring in literally 15 years of playing wow , where the gate on Blackrook hold arena opens ;
I start casting gateway ;
2 random warriors charge me on the 0.5 sek of the cast and I die before the charge stun finishes .
This happened multiple times in the same evening from every mele, even trough the sacrifice and unending resolve (in which case I lasted long enough for 1.5 sek of stormbolt .
So I quit and went to play classic .
Also in BFA the abuse of drain life stacking , which could kill people from 100 to 0 in one cast .
everybody has everything yet feral doesnt have poo.
so its like playing 2023 wow with a 2015 character.
Actually back in the day we were kinda better but whatever.
xd