So as much as i know renown cap used to be 4 at the first week, and second week’s renown cap used to be 7, and it was also told in wowhead and belullar’s video, and then blizzard nerfed it to cap 3 for week 1, and for week 2 we can only reach renown 6, but apparently you forgot to nerf renown level requirement for unranked pvp gear upgrades, it’s still stuck on renown 7, it means that we have to wait 2 weeks to upgrade our pvp gear to an item level that all pve’rs already have since they can easily obtain it through mythic dungeons, this sounds really unfair for pvp players, i was really happy that i could gear up through bgs but then i noticed this nerf and i feel kinda left out, so please nerf the renown level requirement for unranked gear ilvl to 6.
They need to make PvE and PvP gearing equal because we have to Torghast now.
You don’t need more than normal dungeon gear(158) to do torghast.
With a full set of fully upgraded pvp gear wouldn’t you have a fair shot against pvpers with the versa stack and the 40% boost of it’s effects with the pvp trinkets ? I feel like with that set up only pve players who farmed m+ hardcore will have an advantage.
Nope, I failed on Vampire boss (Upper Reach Level 3, 6th layer boss) Arms because PvP gear sucks and perhaps I was unlucky with ability enhancers.
Believe me I do everything right, it is all about trash PvP gear.
Not if you can’t complete torghast. I was like ilvl 151 when I cleared layer 3 in torghast.
Go and try with Arms warrior then, record it, show me how to do with 159 gear.
I bought all buffs from vendor as well. Cmon, I will be waiting 
I’m not going to level a warrior just to prove you wrong. I cleared layer 8 in the beta on all the normal wings, it’s faceroll. The challenge wing is where the difficulty starts, but that’s not open.
You don’t even have warrior but you are eager to say stupid things about their torghast experience.
I don’t need to have a warrior to know you can clear layer 3 without any problems with ilvl 158 gear. My friend plays a warrior, he’s cleared layer 3 with no problems.
Arms has terrible self sustain though, it’s probably one of the worst spec for torghast. I believe him personnaly.
We are talking abour arms you know right?
Besides ability enhancers are random, you can be unlucky and fail because of them.
Arms solo PvE is disgusting, you have no idea.
If you struggle to complete it as arms, maybe you should consider other specs you’re more apt at playing.
No, I will just join 4-5 braindead m+0 dungeons and oneshot them.
If you struggle with torghast layer 3, you won’t oneshot mythic dungeons, lol.
Alright, I see you won’t understand me.
I don’t struggle with Layer 3, my gear and spec struggle, there is a difference.
PvE gear must’ve been equal to m+0 and there would be no problem even as Arms Warrior.
I have no idea why you’re lying to yourself. There is no difficulty at layer 3. The difficulty starts with the challenge wing, which isn’t even open yet. Blizzard’s testing on the beta put 150 ilvl characters into layer 4, you could go well beyond layer 4 with those characters in the testing of torghast and there’s been no changes that would nullify this.
I am someone who could 5mask easily with multiple characters, I can kill first 3 mythic bosses without making mistakes on multiple characters, I can finish 15+ dungeons easily as well.
Hating PvE doesn’t equate to I’m bad at it, I don’t do any mistakes, collected every single buff on floors, gathered spirits but that boss is impossible-overtuned for a 159 iLvL Arms.
I had Kyrian potion, and healing potion too and it was impossible, even with “abilities cost no rage” Augmentation, why do you insist on it, lol. It can be done with self healing classes by kiting but Arms doesn’t have such a thing.
Ok? No relevance to torghast. Torghast isn’t visions.
Torghast isn’t a raid.
Torghast isn’t m+.
Right. 
Why do you think your experience in m+, visions or a raid has any relevance to torghast which is heavily influenced by rogue-like elements?
Torghast is easier, adds are dumb and not punishing like vision adds.
They can be compared.