So many of ppl came back to the gane cose they saw a pvp vendor and there were talks about pvp gearing and now after 2 weeks in wich ppl spamed pvp and got 0 upgrades sitting on 188 ilvl ±
Getting stomped by the pve m+spammers with 210 ilvl its unfair and idiotic system
So they started to leave 2 of my frineds left while sying i cant spam keys or do raids its not fun
I spam pvp and having o progress rated or not gives nothing
And the truth his right its a pve game once again
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Its so bad right now.
Atleast they could’ve bring the resilience stat back.
Getting deleted with 20% versa as Plate healer with shield to melee damage feels kinda weird somehow.
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That’s how it is supposed to be! Laughing about melee pressure because you reduce their damage passively to zero is not fun and it’s low skill!
But I agree to topic, the gap is too big! They should give out the 197 item level upgrades for PvP now, not another 3 weeks!
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Armor type says very little about a class’ ability to handle physical damage nowadays.
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They should rise the gap to 213 ilvl items like in m+14 wich can be farmed and make the upgrade cost 15k honor so we can farm 1 item a day if we hard farm or even rise honor cap to 30k i and make the upgrade worth more i woild still farm it it would be super fair and extreamly fun for ppl who just want to pvp
But blizzards dont care anitch about pvp they wanted ppl to buy so they showed pvp vendor and stuff at the advertise so pvp players buy their game and thats all the idea
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No, they shouldn’t. You shouldn’t be able to farm 213 item level through random bgs in my opinion.
But they should make the gap smaller like it is right now! 197 would be fine, with the conquest gear which you can upgrade, you could be right now around 205 to 208, something like this.
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Why not why ppl wich started farming +14 already for 213 ilvl getting 3+ items aday why shouldent random bg player wich like the content and like to solo q cant get 1 i tem in 2-4 days its super fair !
i should progress On any content i choose to cose its fun for me
The time should be decided by the dificility of the content so lets say you get more honor for more rating you have so lets say ppl on 2.4 get twice the honor then the 1400 rating would or even better gate the pvp item upgrades to ratings 2.4 can upgrade the normal items to 213 2.1 can upgrade to 207 ofcorse make it worth alot of honor (GIVE ME PVP GEIND BLIZZZARD) make it equal to m+ but more time consuming
Alot of ppl just want to come from work
Pop spotify with insane pvp music and run free in a random bg its suoer fun
Me personaly i like arena but when my partners are off i would be so happy to spam random bgs and chill and progress in same time
The system now is just disgustin after 2.4 you need to cap and then pve or you waste your time cose you dont progress very bad and sad feeling
Hi guys if they would make the cap 850 or something that would be great. Cause 550 is nothing tbh
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The cap is ok for a targeted gear pice the pvp grind is the only problem
How can you compare farming +14s to doing random battlegrounds? I don’t even do PvE myself, but that would be an insult to every M+ player. You don’t seem to understand the concept of harder content = better gear at all.
If they would hand out 213s just for Honor, they could aswell remove Normal and Heroic raids and make LFR drop the same Ilvl too. Do you really think LFR, a random BG and a Mythic +14 are at the same level of difficulty and thus should share the same level of loot?
Also, you have no idea how M+ and it’s gearing system works if you think an average player can get any, let alone 3+ M14 items per day right now…
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Not trying to break your bubble, but m+ spammers spam forums, because they dont get any loot at all, lol. Imo raiders are bigger issue for us. The problem is generally that you can get 230+wpn from the vault and just faceroll over everybody else. It doesnt matter if u are pve or pvp spammer. It is just a brutally unfair system.
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I was so surprised to see tryhard after tryhard in arena. Their healthpools were like 32k, while ours was 28k, I thought alrite, they’re pvers, bad gear, gonna take a lot of damage. But it just doesn’t matter. There is no pvp gearing. There is only like the bare minimum people can have for bgs I guess that doesn’t weigh their team down entirely.
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No, it’s not super fair, as doing a m+14 is a lot more difficult than farming afk a random bg!
I agree that BGs are a million more times fun than m+ or raids, but you still don’t deserve to get equal gear to people who are playing arena or rbg on high rating or do diffult PvE content.
But yes, the gap is too big. I would say it’s totally fine if random bgs give you as good gear as normal raiding or lower keys like +7, since you need to farm a lot honor for it.
And DKs cry that there class is not viable. Rogues cry that they got nerfed, etc.
Only because people cry and spam forum, it doesn’t mean anything. They are just crying because the drop rate got reduced. They aren’t full equipped within 2 days now, but a week.
Why should PvErs dedicating their time to slaying dragons get gear that’s better for PvP than PvPers who dedicate their time to slaying players, at any point (and vice versa)?
The answer is they shouldnt and the solution is PvP Power, PvP Resilience or PvP iLvls.
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Exactly Pvp stat or WOD ilvl scaling.
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Pvers got 220 ilvl
Pvp ppls still playing 2500+mmr with 190 gear.
30 ILVL difference …
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And still, they are playing at a much higher rating than every single one of the “PvP gear bad” complainers with similar gear. Isn’t that solid proof that in the end skill > gear?
Right now I have 197 with almost full PvP gear (2 PvE items from 4xM0 last week due to the weekly quest). With this weeks Conq item from the vendor and the legendary upgrade to 235 I can get up to ~202-203 right now, with 233 weapon upgrades maybe even close to 205. How exactly is that supposed to be “bad” gear?
At our MMR, we have yet to face someone with 215+, let alone 220 (which is an absurdly high number and only applies to world first mythic raiders, who also do +15 keys and arena at gladiator level). I don’t think that even 1% of the playerbase is at 215+, which isn’t that big of a difference anyways…
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M+ gearing should be same with honor gear.
They need to buff win honors and nerf lose honors so people can stop leeching bgs and plau it out
Rated pvp gearing should be same with raiding gear.
An example
You can get ilvl 220 with m+ OR non rated any pvp activity
Or get ilvl 225 with raid gear OR rated pvp activity
- add a pvp stat
This should have been the best expansion ever created such a shame
I still think they should use ilvl scaling on pvp gear again. x ilvl outside arena/bg and then massive boost to ilvl in arena/bg. People can stop crying too about 1 shots since more hp ezclap
+14 is 207 gear, not 213. +15 is 210.
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