W15-20 lul. With the honor upgrades next reset I’ll already be 220, even if I don’t get anything from the vault. That’s without doing high M+ keys or raiding, with just 3 low effort/ilvl PvE pieces (200/200/213, total effort of ~6hours to get them). Even without those 3 items (and Honor pieces instead, so FULL PvP gear) I’d get to an overall of 218.
At that point there’s no “getting outgeared” anymore, the ilvl caps out at ~228 right now and even if you ever meet someone with that, a difference of <10 isn’t going to lose you games.
That’s what, a bit more than a month into the season? Quite the different number from your random “50-70% of the season” and I still have yet to feel the need to do PvE for gear at all…
Seems you got incredibly lucky with the vault. Most people won’t, and the most unlucky people won’t be getting BiS stats etc until around w15-20.
Oh yeah, so basically you got PvE gear in all the expensive slots which would take 2 weeks each to fill out each on top of being lucky with vault.
PvE gear is not PvP gear. I don’t care if you think doing Mythic 8 or Ulduar is “easy”, all PvE is easy, that doesn’t make it fair or “OK” for PvE gear to be clearly superior in acquisition speed.
I’m not going to do PvE out of principle - because it’s not what I want to do. I find it so mind-numbingly boring I’d rather quit.
Effort spent in PvP should increase your power in PvP more than an equivalent effort in PvE should increase your power in PvP. However, that’s not the case - and it’s horrible.
Yeah clearly, having considerably worse gear than your opponent is not going to make you lose. Clearly.
PS: There’s this thing called an ilvl squish which means that every single stat and ilvl is much more important than in BfA. Even 5 ilvls is a big deal.
Yeah, you probably didn’t feel the need - you’ve been PvE gearing and getting very lucky with vault. Moreover you’re playing the best healer spec in the game by a longshot. Of course you dont feel like you’re at a disadvantage. Let me guess, playing some combination of WW/Warrior/Ret or RMX? Don’t even answer.
Moreover, we’re already ~20% into the season, most seasons don’t last much more than 20 weeks. It will most certainly take more than 50% for the average PvPer to get their BiS gear through PvP.
Do you seriously think Blizzard would just remove war-/titanforging and then make it so that the average case is that PvPers just “finish the game” (i.e. getting BiS gear) at <50% of the season. That’s ridiculous. They’ve mathed this out.
How nice of you to ignore the “PvP only” part of that. I mean you can do the same math for your main. With just the Honor upgrades on reset day + a 235 Legendary you will have an average of 215 with the gear you are wearing currently. That is almost full Heroic raid level, in “20% of the Season”, without vault luck and by only doing a single form of content. Sounds ok to me.
My fault for maining Hpal since…forever I guess. It’s none of the Comps you listed, though I’d love to play RMPala, seems like fun. But yeah, not gonna answer that question if it’s coming from an alt-poster, not that it matters for this discussion anyways.