PvP is dead dead

If you want that nice Duelist enchant, you gotta beat Streamers, Pro players and Multi-Glads, Rank 1s kekw.
I played 5 games of shuffle as demo and I’m suddenly top 500 in Eu, I’m newbie trash so I dont even count myself as a warlock player.
So how many people still play this class in PvP? 1000 maybe?
How many players are overall in shuffle? 15k? 20k?
This is probably private server numbers, maybe even less :joy::joy::joy:, from a game that peaked at 10mil subscribers and had massive PvP participation.
Does anyone still develops this game or is it on lifesupport/mantenance only?

Edit: Almost forgot people play alts/multiple chars of same class, so numbers could be even LOWER.

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May I ask where you got your numbers from?

They are not my numbers, I haven’t gotten them from anywhere, its just the painful truth, whether you like it or not.
Its week 5 only of the patch and nobody is playing, nobody is climbing, what do you think will happen 2-3 months from now? People will suddenly resub and try again? Nah, they are gone, and Diablo 4 is launching as we speak so I do not see the situation getting better.

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You said it yourself, in order to get Duelist enchant you gotta beat glads/r1s. Game is really unrewarding rn, hence no1 plays and every1 just sits around until inflation kicks in.

A lot of people will come back later though to reap some fast rewards, as they always do, but you are right, not everyone who quit/took a break will and therefore the game bleeds players by Blizzard being inactive and not reacting to it whatsoever. We need a heavy MMR injection rn, not 2 months down the line… I don’t understand why this is happening in the first place, they talked about this issue last season themselves and said they would react this time.

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Well atleast Battle Grounds are active :joy:

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Blizzard dont care pvp or anything… Just money money money :slight_smile:

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everyone is playing Diablo 4

and this sseason has been destroyed with toxic 40 yard casters PVE rotations
while healers struggle to outheal Dots

its a GG

get the elite mog and just AFK until next season

come join 12million active players on diablo 4

( id suggest playing a sorcerer or Necromancer on diablo 4 )

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I did see some tuning in mmr or something that motivate ppl to play

I stopped caring and play other games like Elden Ring, CoD, other SP games etc.
Why should I come with solutions or worry, its not my company, its not my job, I’m not a shareholder, its their problem to fix the game. I worried too much until I realised I’m a CUSTOMER, and I can’t be ask to spend 40 mins of my time in queue for every game lol.
I stopped buying 6 month subs since SL anyway, so its not a big deal for me. I recommend everyone do the same.
Developers should give every effort to keep the PLAYERS, instead of PLAYERS give all the suggestions and find excuses to keep playing.

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yep, and some players dont understand this
i agree im not going to pay for a sub fee, box fee, wow tokens to be pushed into 40min+ queues

and tbf, now im on Diablo4 the stress has all gone, nothing to worry about

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Yes pvp is dead - because no one can be bothered with the mmr cap in SS, you basically do your 2 or 3 chests and that’s it. There is no point in playing more because it is incredibly hard to climb.
Try playing on a Wednesday evening and queues for dps are almost instant. If you try to queue at the weekend people already did what they need to do for the week, and queues are around 30-40min. Even as a healer I don’t have instant queues at the end of a wow-week.

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Solo shuffle ruined pvp. It should bring new players in which it did, but 2v2 and 3v3 got killed for it. Now players left SS because queues are high so we have 3 dead brackets, 4 if we count rbgs, but at least rbgs weren’t affeceted by RSS.
RSS is a cancer mode and a downfall of Wow pvp.

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Blizzard just needs to created a reason for people to actually wanna heal this trash and queue time will be fine.

A good one would be GOLD … but they think we will be happy with faster honor and conquest like what the f… do they even play this game, the ppl that actually play this game for pvp will be capped 90 % of the time anyways?

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Nah rewards wouldn’t solve anything. At least not long term. If classes are unbalanced people wont play them. Its that simple.

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I disagree
If solo shuffle was in a great place, people would be more confident, make more friends and transition to 3s
Shuffle didn’t kill 3s and 2s, the games balance | mmr | low activity has

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It didn’t ruined pvp because 2s and 3s is only more fun if you have someone to play with witch most casual what it seems don’t.

It’s pretty much as it should be, shuffle for casuals and “the real arena” for more hardcore players that wants to build a team.

Ofc if all the competitive players with teams gathers in one place it’s gonna get hard without the casuals to bash.

Rating is harder than before and when players can’t get their usual rating they think they deserve they get frustrated.

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Nah, by that logic an argument can be made that Rated Arena killed PvP, the true PvP that was in Vanilla WoW, with endless Alterac Valley, full bgs, world pvp wars, etc etc.
It’s just different timelines.
Battlegrounds were THE pvp in 2006.
Arenas were THE pvp in 2013.
Solo shuffle is THE pvp in 2023.

If everyone hates shuffle like you say, why dont they now go back to 2v2 and 3v3 instead of waiting 30 min / game? Because those are wayyy worse, and wayyy more deflated in MMR too.

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To be fair I think Blizzard actually cares more than ever but the time they didn’t care over the years did too much damage. Imo the game is broken beyond repair. Imo players who got really tired with Shadowlands left and might never come back.

Changes are frequent - things are changing but… it doesn’t change the fact that there aren’t many players. Also many players just play Diablo IV now.

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S1 yeah
S2 nah
Maybe it’s just bad timing with D4, CMA dramas and Augmentation tuning and 10.1.5
Either way, it sucks for all of us now

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The fact we pay £10 a month to play a game in such a p!ss poor state is unacceptable. People who only play pvp should get to play for free seeing as they invest ABSOLUTELY ZERO money into improving it

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