When i saw SoD was comming i was so excited. The addition of new runes for a vanila server was too hype for my body. That was until i realyze the game went from the classic i remember to a massive powercreep like it is nowadays. Let me talk about my thoughts about what i wanted to be sod and what is right now. Sorry for my bad english in advice:
Fully geared Tier 2 hunter doing same (or even less) damage that SoD lvl 50 with some blues. Saw some videos of people soloing bosses dealing less damage than i do.
SoD Should be a new version of vanilla with the damage proportional of the level and gear. My hunter should crit chimeras for 500-600 at max, not 1800 (same on every single class).
The base damage/healing of the runes made blizzard buff or nerf classes. Runes should scale better with attack power/spell power or healing but be WAY LESS effective baseline. This is why a mage can be healer with 1 healing rune with spell power gear. This is why a priest healer can put plagues that ticks for 250 as a healer with less than 100 spell damage.
Does anyone remember any lvl 50 with 6k hp? you can see it in BGs now, that was endgame HP and mana of very well geared people, so DRINKING is slow af, you need to drink 2 or 3 times to be full hp or mana. BUFF DRINKS
You devs wanted to have some quality of life changes? ok, do it but WTF is adding a 50% duration on a buff that already lasts for 30 min? maybe have a 5 minute warrior shouts instead would be nice, like the paladins got their buffs to 10 minute
In vanilla stuns and CC had a reason. That’s why having same CC durations with 8 times the damage is stupid. 4 seconds cheap shot and 5 seconds kidney (9 seconds total) is S-T-U-P-I-D as design. Do you have trinket? no? then youre dead. Oh wait, you have it? you’re also dead! Rogues can kill people without needing kidney shot.
Armor has 0 importance than it was back then. Hitting a plate user was BY FAR harder to kill with physical attacks. Now it’s like irrelevant. A plate user mitigates 52% of any phisical damage? ok, lemme do some mats… 50.000.000 / 52 = u’re dead anyways. I remember when hitting someone with shield was a challenge to kill
Why every single slot has to be perfect? every item with stamina, intelect, spell power and hit/crit. WHY? we are not even 60 and gear is better than any raid 40 epics.
People complain a lot about the burst meta. Why? 1.- Because they don’t have pvp gear (which should have way more stamina than pve gear btw) and 2.- Because they suck, don’t listen to the people crying for being oneshotted.
Now devs have to change lvl 60 gear because of this powercreep, and it’s dangerous because numbers are slowly being something close to Burning Crusade numbers
Runes should be new aditions of a fun way to use our character, not the most broken thing our rotation have
Runes went from “omg new abilities we never saw before!” to "let’s add up to WOTLK abilities and copy paste them to vanilla. It’s lame and boring. What’s next? Bladestorm? disengage jump? Thunderstorm? Shockwave? ok some might be fun but still a copy paste from other expansion. TRY NEW THINGS like homunculus, like mending bouncing on healing received, like warlock rain of fire damage amplification… that’s the most excited changes i want to see, not the ones that i enjoyed in wotlk. Be brave, idk… an ability where hunters teleport on last launched trap? call it… goblin technomodulator? it’s just a example.
because classic pvp was a fun game and we expected this would be aswell shame on us . I allways play wow mainly for the pvp . PvE can be fun but it also the content that you do once a week what do you do in the other time log off? i play pvp and i want it to be an enjoyable experience where skill expression is needed not playing the game of who hits first wins which is kinda what we have right now …
Playing Classic, and even more so SoD, for somekind of fair and balanced PvP is like moving to North Korea to experience human rights and democracy.
Classic PvP was always about having the strongest class, with the best gear and CDs to delete enemies with swifties. Yet here we pretend it was “balanced” and that duals other than Frost/SL vs Rogue/Warrior weren’t ended in seconds…
Indeed, I’m fairly sure thr devs said from the start that PvP would not be balanced at all.
Make gold, Level alts or you know, Play other games, No need to handcuff yourself to one game
Yeah, None of that applies to WoW PvP, It has been ”You die if you get CC’d” for a long die or simply the one without healer loses.
Does sound quite fun, I did enjoy making Low BG twink alts back in the day, But nowdays i just play more stuff than WoW so no need to just ”Find things to do in WoW”, When there’s so many other games out there
Im sure thats the goal of wow devs for people to just play other games because they offer better game experience you are right . You die if you get cc’d has never been the state of wow pvp idk what you are talking about
Ive always wondered how is possible someone to enjoy doing the same dungeon over and over again… restlessly…for hours. It’s even more problematic on retail …
You need dark moon cards and other epic boes to parse.
You need thousands of gold.
For cons and enchants you need even more gold.
GDKP is removed. So you either: 1) buy gold and risk a ban 2) farm princess ad noseam.
So the way i see it 2 issues:
parsing minmax culture
gold inflation due to massive mistakes at the start of p3
If there is a reason or goal then everything is possible
Honestly i’d do it on Blade & soul, but the game is so low pop that it’s hard to find multi groups even same day new content is released.
Black desert mob farming was very fun as well, just mindless grinding for hrs, But PvPers ruined that game for me, Since it’s all free for all PvP anywhere in the world, Which is why i don’t get why people want to play WoW PvP instead of an actual PvP MMO like that.
Agreed. The bigger numbers game got completely out of hand… it’s just a clown fiesta by now.
Phase 1 was awesome
Phase 2 already felt very off, but we kept hope
Phase 3 is just absolute garbage and unplayable imo
Not even talking about the extreme lack of content.
SoD saw an immense drop in players with phase 3… for good reason.
My guild was rather active… after clearing ST 3 times people stopped playing. There is not a single person left anymore.
Rip SoD - was a good idea that was hard to be executed properly honestly
Also:
You always post the same crap on each pvp topic. You are not amazed or surprised. U just wana spread ur hate pf pvp. We get it, u suck at it or got ganked a few times too many.
PvP is a huge aspect of WoW and has an immense community.
The aspect of having both pve and pvp in one game and interacting with each other is just a lot more satisfying than pvp only games.
I’ve not done any PvP at all since like i dono… MoP/WoD, So i don’t know why you’d just assume that.
I just tink PvP is not something people should care about.
Being ”competative” or wanting to show that you are ”better” than someone or can beat them is rather dull, So it’s weird to put so much attention on it.
But still u act surprised every time although you know by know the audience is massive.
It’s ur opinion and that’s okay.
I feel the same about pve, parsing etc.
seems extremely boring and lame to tryhard against npcs… pvp is an actual challenge you compete against other players not a script that’s always gonna behave the same way. It’s the only real challenge there is… pve is just means to an end and maybe a change in content once in a while when u wana turn ur brain off while talking to friends.
So each to their own… don’t see why u are trying to diminish the content on every chance
