A big “no” . We suffered 2-3 consecutive expansions by this type of system, where we had to do pve or “homework” in order to pvp.
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should be a progression system like call of duty where u unlock attachments skins mods simply by playing, i dont care ab elite stuff but the only reward for winning is conquest nothing else, pretty linear negletted forgotten content
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Exactly and why they need to change the entire rating system. Current is just bad and doesnt work with ppl split in dozen modes and some waiting till month left of the season. Meanwhile the rest just played the whole season with some 3x harder challenge, and then some come in last weeks of season and even with the help of mmr from last season and they just come push something free and pat themselves on the back. Mmr should also be reset each season if we use this system. Lfg is full of ppl with achievements from playing last weeks of season and using mmr from last season and they play like 50 games per season and show some rank per season but in real have very little awareness or clue of the meta in each season if would try play with them. Anyone who play whole season is usually better than some who only play last weeks. I played with so many like that from lfg and they are just blind half the time to what is going on in the team and then some who plays whole seasons has double the situational awareness and clue of meta.
Also on another topic if they are unwilling to remove shuffles or do changes on rated system they should put seasonal mount rewards in ss/blitz as less people play 3v3 anymore. Currently people are just playing ss/blitz and ignoring that glad or some mount rewards exist, and it is how its going to stay aslong as playerbase is split in dozen rated modes and no changes done on the rating systems design which is still heavily affected by how many people play in the specific mode in general.
Genuinely great concept to add to the game. I beleive that it could be lowered by a small standard such as add “Duelist 2” just like Rival 2 currently exists. Which could be around 2250 or 2200. For an old elite set and then 2500 for an old glad mount.
However your take of the gearing concept. I have pvp’ed on wow since WOTLK. I have been active in this game every single expansion. NO PVPER. cares about gear or strength. We care about skill, outplays and balance patches from a dev team that communicates to what the community begs for.
Outgearing someone in BFA was horrible. Legion had the best example and prime pvp when they had a template gear and you could pvp even with green gear. Personally I think the current gearing system is actually great. The crafting could go but it’s not “that” bad.
Yeah, I quickly realized I’m in the minority on my gear take. The reason I set those high numbers is to not lower the value elite set / glad mount.
I just want something to chase after I’m fully geared that isn’t just rating.
Wrong.
Legion, BFA, SL Had far less participation in them than Tbc, Wotlk, Cata, MoP, WoD and DF and TWW have had.
TWW is struggling rn because the playerbase is scattered across multiple game modes, versions lf game and lack of balance changes and responses to known issues.
I have already fully geared 2 charavters in PVP, but I am not motivated to fo it again in my case because Blitz gives too little conquest per game. If they doubled or even tripled it so you could habe an alt up and running within a few days vs weeks, I would be motivated to play.
Don’t care abt mounts etc. Not my thing.
If gearing is what’s stopping you from PVP, I don’t know what to tell you, you can gear up so fast in this expansion it’s crazy.
I’m not against listening to the feedback of casuals. They need to be heard too. Because those casual are gonna become better and climb the ranks. But if they quit in the casual phase then we have failed them.
Unless you are referring to me being casual 
In WoD and MoP i could be in full cong in 2 days max, now its like a week or so.
Cba, I just play things I enjoy in the meanwhile. Fine by me.
You can farm conquest boxes in raid and it will take you a couple of hours.
I haven’t done this method myself, but this is what I hear.
Hes not Wrong rly, people need carrot at the end of a stick in order to play.
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guess what casuals wont push glad with the current state of the game…
i hit duelist and voiced my opinion STOP THE GATEKEEP pvp is only healthy if all brackets are healthy.
Enticing people to play seems quite easy to me. Allow to buy old Elite sets for 1 saddle per elite set. And allow to buy glad mounts for 5-10 saddles, or make a seperate currency.
Same as mythic need atleast 2 expansions ago
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Might aswell make it complete 1 world quest then
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Why put any effort on 3v3 if its the least played mode now, why blitz give most rating and same seasonal rewards, why shuffle is stupid. Why mmr is not reset between seasons so ppl with 2.7mmr can get 2.4 with 32% win and flex least amount played. Why 2v2 has to be so dead that cant have fun with friends anymore, why 3v3 has 4min que for trivial mmr against r1 on 10th alt. Why I witness negative win retributions with 1.6 exp getting most wins by default in shuffles. Why is the fistweaver doing 700k dps in shuffles while also healing his team. Why is 30x glad streamers playing on 2100 rating in shuffles and trying gaslight people they are “imagining the long ques and deflations”. I guess I could mention the ques then, 40min ques to witness some die in 20 seconds with everything unpressed. I doubt anyone are really having fun playing pvp in tww but if some are all the more power to them, I’m not. I think its bad.
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most of the community would call that a hand out…
Sadly
looks also really cheap/close to garbage
ofc my opinion, but at this point u can ask Ai and it will make better stuff than the current art team when it comes to elite sets/Tabards/illusion
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How is that not a hand out? XD
Maybe simply because it’s not and it has never been an achievment for casuals ? XD
Hold your horses big guy. You scratched 2,1 in battlegrounds after tunneling 1500 for 10 years and now ur horny for a glad mount. Very common pattern and it’s okay. Just stop.
so what my duelist title is not duelist enough?
when is it enough for me to start talking?
why did you felt compelled to spy on my exp?
This attitudes are part of the problem.
i started pvp in my crappy old computer that could barely do 20 fps but i dont think thats important…
i started in bfa ,and since i have gotten night and day better i even invested in skill capped premium my account shows healthy growth i went from 1500 stuck first season in bfa to my first duelist in warwhitin s1.But what really matters is that im here in this forums because i care and im passionate about the game mode and want to see it grow all voices in the ladder should be heared. thank you for the attempted public humiliation…
Also why is your profile hidden big boy?
glad is meant to be achieved by those who grind and put in dedication for it atm its a rank one reward go figure…
You’re free to talk here but since you are bragging about ur xp and how your opinion matter, I am simply telling you, it does not.
Well, I can say the same thing about you.
It’s people like you who keep crying and coming up with the most fried ideas that blizzards unfortunately listens to and rn you have a PvP with 3 dead brackets. Not counting battlegrounds as a bracket, I apologize.
Everything you get in the game used to be ≈500 rating higher. On top of that, starting mmr used to be 1500. Nowdays it’s what, 2k? Your mmr on a fresh char literally HANDS YOU the elite set.
But yet you are here wanting it to be more easier and inflated.
Just going by your logic, if handing out glad mounts and sets for tokens or whatever you cooked is supposed to revive PvP. How come the game is dying with every patch while they literally keep doing that with most rewards?
i bragged about rating???
rewards were 500 rating higher participation was 500% higher.
only one crying is you bud protect the “PRESTIGE”