Id rather protect the prestige than cry and feel entitled.
Your “solution” to the problem is by giving away items people had to fight for.
So far, the only reason I feel like you give, is that “casuals” who just grind at the bottom should get rewarded equally as the ones who fight to earn it.
If you had actually made something up like “other rewards” that is not connected to unobtainable items maybe some might have taken you more srsly.
i didn’t claim entitlement to anything i simply said glad should be achievable…
dont shove you assumptions in my mouth
Glad should not be achievable by those who do not improve.
People can buy boosts if thats the case.
Just pure grinding is not even remotely close to glad lvls.
If you do not even try to improve at the game, why do you believe you should get the best rewards?
This is not purely directed at you. Its the same regardless.
You clearly spelld things out. Theres no assumptions.
The instant you called out ppl at 1600 if they just grind enough should get glad rewards you already made that sure.
Be nice to him, he thinks we don’t care about the game, yet, some of have played for 20 years. He only started in bfa.
Hes a puppy 
To clear the waters I’ve given a vast amount of suggestions one of witch was in fact based on the 1600cr levels (lower bracket) this was an idea for increasing the overall participation trough out the season for all brackets not a participation trophie, it was based on allowing lower bracket players to play an obnoxious amount of rounds(wins) the number i gave was 500 to 1000 wins for a previously locked seasonal reward including past glad mount (recolors) ,this was also supplemented with a whole new system of a period of grace for the glad mounts were current glad mounts would stay locked away from this system for 2 expansions (the title would remain exclusive to the top of the bracket).
NEW SUGGESTIONS…
how about we stop with the half truths.
i make posts and comments in the forums not only to voice my opinion but to try and discuss with other player more or less experienced then me in the matter , all i get in return is personal attacks and the same old defense of we need to keep the best rewards locket for 1000 people world wide…
All i want is to share my opinions and hear other peoples takes.
and yes people at 1600 should be able to achieve glad by getting to the correct ranking after the getting good struggle in my posts i always defend the importance of maintaining the neck turning effect that glad mounts and titles have.
Even if its grinding, its still a handout. They do not need to improve just grind.
You denying everyone elses takes that do not line up with your own is not called having a discussion.
You are well aware of the items having “prestige” because they are unobtainable.
So instead of just having the argument of making NEW REWARDS for the grind part, you bring up your own intentions into it.
Grinding and struggle is 2 different things.
You improve, you get to 2400 in 3s, congrats, you are on your way to get your glad mount and achiev.
Grinding at 1600 for certain amount of wins just shows you are not improving.
Why would people improve when they dont have to? Ive seen plenty enough ppl, even on this very forum, who refuse to improve but wants to make the game line up with themselves. Which is VERY dangerous.
I’m suggesting over 1000 WINS in one season how many people are raking in those numbers? you are telling me that 1000 wins at your ath rank wont make you a better player? Since you decided to focus on my 1600 suggestion i would like to stress this again its not a path to the gladiator title but to a recolored renamed gladiator mount from the past i can assure you this 1000 wins over the average players rating would for certain bring overall health to the ladder in the form of participation. To your point about me not accepting your takes you guys simply didnt give me any , you criticized mine called it fried with out offering anything of value i think you are missing the point im overall agreeing with you, the average player shouldn’t get a title that resembles a best of the best in the form of appearance, im simply advocating for a seasonal long goal for the average player in the form of recolor glad mounts as a carrot to their stick proven by how reward driven the wow community is best rewards for the biggest impact logic.
Also guess what people simply moved on ,most deemed the glad title in 3s to far gone to be achievable ,the current EU peak is at 2800 why would the average player decide that he wants to play at a pro level to get a mount?
You know what doesn’t allow people to improve lack of motivation…
you want people to get good but all you said so far is how im wrong for suggesting new incentives.
I’m full of ideas hares a free one create a system were glad players get rewarded for playing and helping lower players in the form of a sherpa system destiny 2 does this with their pvp with unique rewards for both sides.
Ok bro, we’re being incredibly patient with you, so let me be a bit more blunt.
NOBODY IS AGAINST MORE REWARDS FOR LOWER RATED PLAYERS
The problem is, you want it to be a glad mount, something that has been extremely difficult to get since arena was introduced.
I 100% agree there should be rewards for simply grinding, but it should not be glad mount.
once again recolored and renamed this are some of the best models in game use them…btw you were quite rude for no reasson a few posts back dont know to what end im sure you got reasons…
imagine the df s1 drake in a different color every one knows its the glad from wish but i can assure you it would drive participation.
Shadowlands proved this point btw
Gee, I wonder why I changed my tone with you. Perhaps it’s because you’re being unreasonable?
If you think I’m being rude here, I don’t know what to tell you. I’m holding back a lot.
why are you holding back why are you angry? its a forum comment dam dude maybe you got some things to work on…
They should make old elite sets purchaseable in pvp. Same with glad mounts. Also add other cool items, titles etc to make people want to play pvp.
But above all else make frequent tuning and have an open dialogue with your playerbase. Even if you disagree with the players, this gives you a chance to showcase the reasons to everyone.
Simple make it fun and rewarding people will want to improve naturally like any other game.
seasonal rotation store
No thanks.We dont need collectors in PvP brackets,we need PvP players that want to play PvP and improve their skill.
Yes we want that,frequent tuning.
sadly there’s wants and needs and unfortunately you need “collectors” since they make the bottom of the ladder healthy as well.
if you only have top dogs you create deflation and everyone hates that…
Even some of the top pvpers have criticized the reward structure while asking for reform.
Even venruki is showing displease at the moment and he is one of the most positive figures in the community
Bottom and middle of the ladder should be for new players and the ones that enter PvP for first time and want to improve over time.Not for Collectors.
I criticize the reward structure too,there should be more rewards in every PvP bracket,but that doesnt mean there should be reward for 1000 wins on 1600 raiting (This is not a Korean MMO).There should be unique mounts for Legend players in Shuffle,also there should be something like PvP renown track and many more.But nothing like you suggested.Rewards should incentivise players not only to play but to improve.
I think its fine if the top players get the glad mount and title for that season- That is their reward. They look cool that season. Thwy habe the bragging rights etc.
But after that season that reward comes available for otherd through grind. Then it’s not away from anybody that they can get them as well.
No,that should never happen.
collectors make the bottom as well do stop neglecting pieces of this already dwarfed community…
we need pvers to feel like they have a place to go when their seasons are bad for example smthg that is happening to us atm
a lot of pvpers are doing mplus.
If Collectors want to PvP and improve over time im more than fine with that.But im against Collectors whining on the forums about making prestige rewards available to “collect” via grinding like a bot.