So what you propose is basically removing Void Elves or making them optional. Sorry to say but that won’t happen.
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And that’s what I tried to tell you yesterday, but instead you just argued it.
We don’t know the lore of it.
We shouldn’t assume it’ll affect every elf the same, we shouldn’t state that every blood elf will revert to blue eyes as fact.
This is an issue, since the green eyes is an important marker for the race it shouldn’t be casually done away with because “Well, we’re moving on”.
But either way, either the Sunwell influences every non-fel/magic-using Blood Elf & High Elf to such an extent, or it doesn’t.
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And that’s what I tried to tell you yesterday, but instead you just argued it.
We don’t know the lore of it.
We shouldn’t assume it’ll affect every elf the same, we shouldn’t we state that every blood elf will revert to blue eyes as fact.
This is an issue, since the green eyes is an important marker for the race it shouldn’t be casually done away with because “Well, we’re moving on”.
But either way, either the Sunwell influences every non-fel/magic-using Blood Elf & High Elf to such an extent, or it doesn’t.
The implication is basically akin to saying that Coca Cola’s signature brand colour will be changed to blue & white.
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I argued using existing facts. The statement from devs saying that yes, Blood Elves slowly revert back to blue and some gain gold eyes and not just as player specific customization. Also because the Arcane Glow is volatile and we’ve seen cases of it changing.
And to be fair you were also very absolutist in that Blood Elves are mutated and thus no longer share the physiology of High Elves. Yet there’s also nothing pointing out to that.
And again treating it as a some monumental moment in their history had unironically the same vibes as treating the High Elves brief membership in Alliance as binding. It was, it happened. It’s no longer the case.
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Yeah, no. Because what you are describing as a problem isn’t a problem. If Void Elf players don’t want to feel like a ‘corrupted, lesser or more wicked version of High Elves’ then congratulations…you can play a Blood Elf.
If they chose Void Elf then they did so knowing what being a Void Elf involves. Void corruption is the entire point of a Void Elf. This request isn’t for extra customisation, it’s trying to pretend you are something you are not and on that altar you are willing to hollow out Void Elves. It’s like demanding Blizzard fix Dwarves because they are short.
This is exactly what entitlement is. You think you have the right to demand Blizzard upends what Void Elves are in spite of what other Void Elf players want, the ones who want to play a Void Elf. This is what selfishness is, you want to duplicate a core Horde race irrespective of what Blood Elf or Horde players feel.
In other words, this is a horrible suggestion that will go nowhere.
You did. And cited a source. Truth is, thalassian elves are very mutable and change easily. Stick one of these Alliance High Elves in a fel contaminated region for long enough and their eyes would go green too. Something that changeable isn’t a fundamental marker of the race, what is a fundamental marker of the race is that their eyes glow at all dependant on what the dominant magical force within them is. Some Blood Elves will probably retain the green eyes forever because they are either taking fel illicitly or are Warlocks/Demon Hunters.
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A. When did I ever state they don’t share physiology?
B. I’m just glad most people disagree with the loose philosophy you seem to adhere to.
The only source we have on it is that some elves revert, and it’s not much of a source in itself, as the whole post was about “being open to new possibilites” which included a segment of how a canonized Man’ari Paladin would be a cool twist.
In essence the whole post was a - “If we put it in game, it exists and it makes sense because we say so.”
And you could argue that it is their right, but I doubt that issue was discussed for long, or considered for longer than a 5 minute coffee break, seeing the amount of loopholes it creates for every thalassian elf that doesn’t fit the bill.
It seems to have been a lazy justification to give blue eyes to Blood Elves.
Had they said that green will inevitably change into golden (because of the Sunwells influence) then that would be an entirely different story, and maybe even acceptable.
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It’s not though, we have the game itself. Their eyes changed from blue to green. Then some have reverted from green to blue. Others went from green to gold (such as Lady Liadrin). Some have gone from green to purple. And some are staying green, either because the fel influence is lingering longer in them, cleared faster in others or they are actively dabbling in fel anyway.
As I said, were an Alliance High Elf exposed to the fel for long enough they would end up with green eyes too. That is simply how thalassian eyes work. Even the Void Elves have a set of voidy tones, from a dead white to their own shade of cold void blue, simply becasue they are infused with void.
This seems a weird hill to die on in an attempt to argue the green eyes mean more than they ultimately ended up being.
And an unlikely scenario, nor is it portrayed as something normal that just occurs. There’s something deliberate about it as well, and not just through temporary environmental exposure.
The Blood Elves consumed vast amounts of fel, whether directly or indirectly, to get to that point, hence why it was looked down upon by the Quel’dorei.
I find it weird that I have to not just argue for the sake of playable High Elves with you, but also argue about the preservation of what makes Blood Elves unique in the first place.
Why would you ever argue for a blander world?
Or perhaps you just want to argue for argument’s sake.
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We started this discussion after one of the people argued that the High Elves cannot have Green eyes and that’s a significant physiological change that sets the Blood Elves apart. This one specifically…
[quote=“Aemilia-darkmoon-faire, post:4144, topic:514414”] How so? Last time I checked, high elves can’t have green eyes and neither should they [/quote] (tcht weird why doesn’t it work)
To which I replied that it’s possible because the change in the Eye Glow is just a trait of Races that are sufficiently tied to the magics of the world and especially volatile for Thalassian Elves.
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I see we are still on the same talking point. Can’t wait for monday where we will revert back to population and how HE are extinct lol.
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The Blood Elves did not consume Fel. The Blood Elves used demonic energies to help keep their city from crumbling. This was stated in the TBC Behind the Scenes video.
From using that energy to keep there buildings together causes a reaction where there eyes were change to green due to the radiation from those crystals.
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Some did. The ones that followed Kael’thas.
Rest of them were exposed to the fel that powered the city.
And High Elves did not and were not on both accounts.
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Didn’t those became the Felblood Elves if I recall correctly?
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Yes and no. The Felblood Elves weren’t just feeding on Fel. They went the extra mile and drank Demonic Blood. The Sunfury (normal BElves) fed on Fel, but so did generic Blood Elf NPCs in TBC Silvermoon who went to Demon Crystals and directly feeding off of them in-game. They’re not Felblood. The Sunfury also fed on the Void in Netherstorm, and didn’t turn into Void Elves. There’s degrees of Magic imbuement.
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Those weren’t feeding off those crystals. They are using them to keep their city from crumbling.
I cannot post screenshots here, but go to the southermost building of the Royal Exchange. There’s a lounge called “The Hall of Respite” - with two Demon Crystals surrounded by seats and hookas. And a Blood Elf Magister casually tapping into it.
I don’t see how you can argue that the Demon Crystals inside of a party interior are somehow used for infrastructure purposes. 
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You mean this:
https://i.imgur.com/12TnKS4.png
They are not feeding on it. They are using it.
The blood elves notably enslaved the fel by imprisoning demons,[2] which they used to maintain their architectural structures.[3] As of the Invasion of Pandaria, the fel crystals of Quel’Thalas seem to be gone or depleted of their imprisoned demons, as Grand Magister Rommath states that the crystals were “once” used to enslave demonic energy.[2]
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Fel_crystal
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Yes, that’s certainly the place you want to have purely infrastructure-maintaining Demon Crystals. Two of them - the one’s just to your right. Right infront of a circle of seats and hookahs. In a place called the “Hall of Respite”. Also note how the Fel envelops him.
Beyond that. I don’t think anybody’s denying that their primary purpose was to maintain Quel’thalas’ infrastructure and suplement the Arcane Sanctums - I don’t see why you’re quoting that. But you’re somehow dead-set that at no point, no Blood Elf tapped into Fel beyond a fraction of the Sunfury. Or otherwise they’d have turned Felblood - which is plain wrong?
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Post an actual source to say the Blood Elves in Silvermoon were feeding on the Fel then.
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Except we have multiple sources and explanations stating that it wasn’t deliberate by the vast majority. It was the radiance of the fel energy from the crystals that the general population didn’t know about that led to the green eyes.
And the unlikely nature of the scenario isn’t the point. The point is, an Alliance High Elf in the same physical circusmtances would manifest green eyes because there is no difference between an Alliance High Elf and a Blood Elf. It is thus not a marker of the race.
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