Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024 (Part 1)

https://web.archive.org/web/20210222183249/https://twitter.com/MickyNeilson/status/433059417437650944

From Micky Neilson - former lead writer - specifying that the Blood Elves of Eversong had no idea what they were absorbing. Note the emphasis on absorb.

Beyond that, you have an even more damning evidence in the form of Netherstorm’s questline, where you find out that the Manaforges are extracting Magic (and sending it back to Azeroth in Mana-Cells). Where do the Manaforges extract the Magic from? That’s correct, the Twisting Nether. And what’s in the Twisting Nether? It’s the Demon/Fel dimension, though there’s some Void and Arcane too.

I’m sorry that you think Blood Elves never fed off of Fel, but it’s false. The majority didn’t, sure. And even of the ones that did feed on it, they probably had no idea what it was about. But some /were/ feeding off of it.

They didn’t. That was retconned. Their magic came from living beings. The fel comes from the burning crystals that had a radiation to them. Isn’t it funny how high elf fans are full in cope mode and amde slandering the blood elf community their whole personality because Sin’dorei have everything they are trying to steal lol.

First of all, Micky was not a lead writer. Metzen was the lead writer in World of Warcraft, especially during The Burning Crusade expansion.

Secondly, the lore has been retconned, even Metzen retconned the lore before TBC released and he was the lead writer at the time.

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“Micky Neilson is the former Lead Writer in Publishing at Blizzard Entertainment” “He had also been Senior Writer and Voice Director at Blizzard” - come again? :))))

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Micky_Neilson

Metzen has /never/ been a writer. He was a concept artist chiefly, and then a Story Director in WoD, and now a Franchise Director (which btw, doesn’t seem to have much input on the game). Please give me a single link where he had a “Writer” or “Quester” position?

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Chris_Metzen

Neilson’s quote is from 2014, long after TBC. Also Metzen had no input on any of those retcons or w/e you’re arguing, can you please link a source on any of your claims, please? Because you’re making a schizophrenic claim that somehow Metzen retconned the TBC lore that’s present in TBC, long before TBC came out.

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I’ve posted a source to “The Blood Elves were using”, not feeding and you’ve ignored that. And that video is a good source to a lot of the retcon in regards to the Blood Elves.


And correction on Metzen, he was the former Senior Vice President in Story and Franchise Development. My mistake, I made that error.

Did I, at any point, deny that the Blood Elves were using the Fel Crystals to power their city, in addition to the Arcane Sanctums? Conversely, you seem to ignore any sources that point to SOME Blood Elves using Fel to gorge upon. And screech out that it’s retconned or something.

I’m actually getting second hand embarassment for you. Please post a source on Metzen retconning TBC lore that’s present in TBC, before TBC was released. Also please post a source on Micky Neilsen somehow being an imposter, and not a Lead Writer.

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I mean you just did. There’s one on the pic.

He’s clearly tapping into it.

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No. Because apparently the Blood Elf Magister, in the area called “Hall of Respite” - surrounded by hookahs and recreational seats - is undertaking some serious infrastructural maintainance work right then and there.

They’re on a whole different frequency.

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That is also the case. Otherwise we’d maybe see some more elves rather than just watching Silver Covenant popping out as your standard Helf Representation. Maybe if they were meant as more than remnants they’d at least establish some sort of government or hierarchy rather than having nothing. Maybe they’d build a settlement Instead of staying in the one Lodge that didn’t fall or ultimately settling in Silvermoon and obeying its rules.

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Oh my Sunwell, yes. Yes they did.

I don’t know whether this or some other chapter of TBC was retconned or not, but at that point yes - they absolutely were.

Directly for those who didn’t care about it being taboo, and literally slurped on fel essence from the Burning Crystals in the city.

And indirectly for those who consumed the essence of creatures and other sources that had been tainted by fel from the Burning Crystals.

How do we know that? Because like it was stated - we see it in game, we see it being talked about by npcs and we see it being done by them.

Is it the word consume that bothers you so much? Whether their evening mana snack was laced with fel or not doesn’t change the fact that they did consume creatures who were tainted.

One of the first quests you do as a blood elf speaks of how said crystals are corrupting the creatures in its surroundings. Why is it such a stretch?

Clearly Blizzard changed their minds about a lot of things in the story, especially when they doubled down on the redemption, but we see many contradictory stories being told that were clearly just never removed.

To say that Blood Elves never consumed fel as a whole, however, is not correct.

I feel like this is just semantics at this point.

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Of course it’s a marker. It’s a selling point.
We live in a real world where things have brands, and people apply meaning to them.

Blood Elves having green eyes is definitely a part of their identity, even now after all the new lore. How can you even argue that with some would-be scenario that isn’t seen in-game?

Just the same as High Elves having blue eyes is such a marker for them.

Blizzard themselves make this point over and over again in their own story. It’s definitely a marker for both races. You’re being intellectually dishonest by stating otherwise at this point.

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It is correct. You are just so spiteful you look for any loophole you can use against the blood elves collectivley to summon a “gotcha” moment for your own side. High elf fans do it all the time.

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If a race can essentially be described as a sponge to all things magical, that absorbs and changes from it’s environment over time, whether directly or indirectly, we can safely say there were a number of them that consumed it in this case.

There’s no spite here, the only thing that is being done here is arguing for a reinforcement of boundaries, which your lot seem so happy to erase or pretend doesn’t exist - and for what? Nothing other than arguing for the contrary.

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Why are you so defensive? Nobody’s attacking you for playing a recovering drug addict. Infact, Void Elves, High Elves and the Alliance are rushing to save you from extinction again. You should thank us.

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No. Blood elves never drank demon blood. Otherwise they would look the same as fel orcs. Which they don’t do. Try again.

abominations who are on the brink of losing it to old god whispers.

racism as a race. Why should we want you on our land?

Yes we know Blizzard has a strong alliance bias. This topic even existing at all is proof of that. Alliance players also tend to be petty when they don’t get 100% of the lore attention.

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/images/Valdris_Felgorge_HS.jpg

There’s quite a lot of Blood Elves that drank Demon Blood knowingly.

Most Blood Elves were getting just getting the tame, moderate approach of getting exposed to it.

Because as you’ve stated, it’s our land too as well, soon. Plural. We can both be facetious and obnoxious, and miss the point entirely.

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What? xD I never claimed they all drank demon blood. (??)

I claimed they consumed fel crystals or creatures tainted by fel.

Directly for those who didn’t care about it being taboo, and literally slurped on fel from the Burning Crystals in the city.

And indirectly for those who consumed creatures and other sources that had been tainted by fel from the Burning Crystals.

Is it the word slurped and consumed that has you misrepresenting everything I said or?

Magically consumed their essence, not bite into like some savages. Obviously.

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It is not your land. It is blood elf land. You flung yourself at the humans making yourself sidekick armcandy. What has the undying loyalty to any Wrynn king ever got you so far?

Erevien’s meme-ing btw. He’s actually an Alliance die-hard player on an alt, creating psy-op posts.

He talks about how there’s a secretive cabal of High Elven players orchestrating Midnight and the ruination of the Blood Elves.

I actually like him, he’s funny. Compared to some other people around.

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xD

I’m 60 posts in and I feel like I should retire. The guy has 12429 posts as of this moment. I can’t compete with such mana-addled behaviour.

Maybe it’s time to go back to monke (kaldorei), and be done with it all.

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