High elf fans are on the community council. They have actual political power to develop the game. Try again.
See? What was I talking about? :)))))
But n’awhh. I actually think we’ll get High Elven customizations in some capacity. From what I’ve gathered, the Silverglade Refuge outpost seems like it was a late-development addition, and will not play part much in the initial release content.
So there will be a patch dedicated to it and the Silver Covenant to some extent post-release. Beyond that, Void Elves are finally getting DHs and Paladins, some actual characterization, and an actually cool-looking uniform scheme. All they’re missing are customizations now. So being an Alliance Elf has never been better.
You’re looking at it positively on the lowest end. He’s got about 20.000 posts in total, probably more spread across suspended accounts on the US side too.
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God damn he’s John Warcraft Forums
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I’m not sure I follow your argument. Every race is optional. Adding a “sweet vs. salty” choice doesn’t erase Void Elves — it highlights what makes them distinct by providing a clear counterpoint.
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Round and round and round it goes, where it stops, nobody knows. 
This. It’s the same thing with “arguments” like
We as players are not faction-locked, we are not part of a fantasy race in a fictional setting, every player can play every race and every class. Acting like the discussions here are about more than mere game choices in a fictional setting is just… wild.
That said, to all the Anti-Alliance-HE-Crowd:
Do you realize that in participating in this thread, you basically help us (in the High Elf-community) by keeping the topic active and with that, relevant? 
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The fact that you don’t see a problem, does not mean there isn’t one. Other people feel that it is a major problem. I invite you to open up your mind a bit and stop thinking the world revolves around your perspective.
Some players want the Blood Elf fantasy (green eyes, fel magic, Lor’themar, Lady Liadrin, Sunreavers, red Silvermoon and Eversong, Horde allies, Blood Knights, etc.). I applaud those players and I’m really happy they have that option.
Other players have grown to love what Alleria has to offer with the Ren’dorei. A void-tinged and sort of edgy take on what it means to be a High Elf, almost a “what if”-type of scenario if the Blood Elves hadn’t softened up a bit after The Burning Crusade. How far can we take the magic power addiction if there are no restraints? Also great - happy they have that option!
And then other players still want something different. They want that original, ‘pure’, Warcraft 2 High Elven Ranger experience. They should be able to have that, because it harms no one else. More choice is always a net positive.
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Nah that’s nonsense.
When you choose Void elf, you’re making the choice of the void.
Hints in the name.
Want a different race? Keep asking for a different race. Stop trying to alter Void elves.
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Isn’t that the whole point of this thread? 
Some of use are willing to settle with the compromise, others keep wishing for a separate High Elf Allied race.
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Yeah but that particular part being spoken about was around how to alter void elves so they’re not void elves any more.
Void elves - void optional
Then again, I don’t know why I bother caring.
Im pretty sure midnight is going to put the high elf debate to bed for good and the way they’ll do it is set in stone.
I absolutely understand what you mean and even agree with a big part of it.
But if we’re honest, it’s not unexpected.
I’ll exaggerate my train of thought a bit, simplify the situation:
- Looking back, people asked for Alliance High Elves in WoW, due to their presence in WC2.
- Blizzard had some pretty good arguments against that, bitter as it was.
- Then, Blizzard introduced Alliance Void Elves, that were intended to be a compromise, but still, basically undermined every reasonable argument that Blizzard had given against playable High Elves, even showed some of them join the Ren’dorei.
- So of course, people asked for these uncorrupted VE skins.
- Blizzard delivered, but decided to keep the Quel’dorei present and distinct from the BE and VE in the lore."
As I mentioned before, Blizzard had plenty of chances to end the High Elf demands for good by having the remaining Quel’dorei merge with either the Sin’dorei or the Ren’dorei - but they didn’t. The keep mentioning them as a seperate tribe and also keep them around in the story, even in Midnight.
Which means, unless they end their story as a tribe OR make them entirely playable, the Void Elves are their Stand-In on the Alliance side. Therefore, people want to make these stand-ins look like the originals. We both know, if there were “normal” HE as an allied race, most of the VE players would race change instantly and don’t even care about the VE anymore. Of course, they do have a fanbase and I admit, the whole void stuff is cool - but the reality is that their fanbase is dwarfed by the HE fanbase in numbers.
tl;dr
It’s not about people wanting to change Void Elves in particular, but about… getting actual High Elves
I really hope that they do that. As soon as this debate is over, we can focus on more important matters.
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Playable Ogres f.e. 
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I never said they should remove what makes Void Elves special. Plenty of races already have customisation options that offer alternate themes and backstories, and those races are doing just fine. For example red skin Draenei, undead Blood Elves, and pretty soon Amani Darkspead Trolls.
Look at it this way:
- Player 1 creates a Void Elf and likes the voidy aspect of this race. They customise their character to use tentacles, use typical Ren’dorei transmog, etc.
- Player 2 creates a Void Elf and prefers a more traditional High Elven style. They use a natural hair colour, normal skin, blue eyes, and silver armour. Heck, they might even be able to change a couple of their racial abilities, and alter the name tag so it says “High Elf”.
In this scenario, nobody loses.
Now, I am all for introducing High Elves as a completely separate race so we can really dig deep into all the things that could make High Elves unique. No compromises.
But in case Blizzard isn’t willing to, then I think powerful ways of customising your Void Elf is the second best option.
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Except for player 2 because they have to play as a void elf who identifies as a high elf instead of just playing as a high elf
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Well, not if you’ve been paying attention.
They’d have the ability to choose racial abilities and their race’s name. It’s basically like starting out as a no-name adventurer in Elder Scrolls before an NPC approaches you and asks you for information, at which point you say whether you’re a Void Elf or High Elf.
So while you might’ve tagged along to Telogrus Rift to meet Alleria, you didn’t necessarily undergo any ritual. You just decided “this is cool, but I’m going to go see what Vereesa’s up to now”.
That said, introducing an entirely new race is obviously the ideal solution.
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Ah you’re making a suggestion for how Blizzard should deal with this issue. I fully agree, I mean it would be kind of lazy since you could probably make an entire expansion just about the reconstruction and revival of the high elves. But if blizzard can’t be bothered to make such a story then simply making high elf a sub-race would be the way to go about it
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See that’s the thing. Everyone moved on from that game which is why night and blood elves are now the elf races that emerged in the writing since 2001. Only yourself is still stuck in the past.
No that’s you pushing void elves out of their own race.
Its a ridiculous notion that should never happen.
The fact you think you should be able to change their name tag is just… no.
Im just going to put you on block.
I really don’t need your kind in my life.
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Funny I did the same to you ahahah
Clear as day what your agenda is.
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The Quel’dorei threads are still going strong, after all these years, getting likes in double- or triple digit-range and usually have several thousand replies, because people debate about that topic with actual arguments, both for and against playable Alliance High Elves, keeping it relevant.
That’s what it looks like when people have an idea or common wish, when they come together and fight for something they want - and even debate those who disagree in a respectful manner and on topic.
Basically, it’s everything you could only dream of with your ever-repeating forum threads, so… I kind of understand your frustration.
But seriously, → I ← am stuck in the past?
Out of the two of us, it’s not me who has been creating the same threads in different languages repeatedly for over a decade now and still struggles to even get likes in a double-digit range with them.
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My man missing out on game content since 2008. Probably should spent less time in the forum and more in the game.
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My agenda is to protect void elves from, ironically enough, corruption.
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