When have the Horde been actually enemies? It was the humans who were harassed by the Orcs mostly and the Amani got kicked out of the Horde after Zul’jin proved to be unreliable and didn’t follow any orders.
the Forsaken are not the scourge. Try being less racist for once.
High elves are blood elves. All their differences are in politics aka the faction they are the part of. Again.
the blood elves didn’t consume fel either. The green eyes come from fel radiation done by the burning crystals.
Yeah that’s literally what I rp my character as.
My character was an alliance half elf who joined the void elves after their creation.
My character never was a blood elf at any point.
All rp of course but thats what any characters story is really
If Alleria portrait is anything to go by, she might become the Ranger General.
I will tap out of the conversation for now, appreciate the vigorous debate from all parties.
Will leave you with this:
In case you wonder what the true intentions of high elf fans are they hate the mere idea that any elves ever joined the Horde to begin with, they want blood elves to be ruined out of petty faction rivalry.
The possibility of High Elves for the Alliance died eight years ago with the introduction of Void Elves. They were never going to add a duplicate of an existing race to the opposite faction, and they almost certainly feel they did right by Alliance High Elf fans with the introduction of Void Elves. We even know that storywise you can say you were an Alliance High Elf who became a Void Elf.
Adding High Elves takes away the Blood Elves monopoly on being the authentic High Elves and it takes away from that experience as an integral part of the Horde faction. I don’t see why I should have to share that experience, any more than I would be expected to share the Orc, Troll, Tauren, Goblin or Forsaken experience or why the Alliance should share their races with the Horde.
Midnight will likely end with this being the last serious appearance of the Silver Covenant in the story, Dalaran is gone and they now exist at the edges of Quel’thalas, the VERY few left over. The Void Elves have replaced them in the story as the Blood Elves counterparts.
Those areas are not under Alliance control and it is foolish to think they are. Control belongs to those who maintain authority. The fact that the Horde can visit those areas freely shows they are permitted to be there, not that they have taken those areas for the Alliance. This is an attempt to manufacture a win that doesn’t actually work in practice. In realistic terms these areas are far from any other Alliance support and surrounded by powerful Horde forces. Should tensions arise between the factions again, they can easily be expelled again too.
And you won’t get that, because they aren’t going to add the same race to the game twice. Your best hope is a bastardised Void Elf, but I have doubts they’ll do that Void Elves given the vast majority of players seem happy enough with the compromise and I think altering an existing race to pretend to be something it isn’t is something Blizzard won’t do. Even the Man’ari Draenei folks are now so keen on citing are trying to repentant and striving to be as they were, not pretending to be something they aren’t.
I just don’t understand the whole idea of “this will ruin void elves if they get more customisations!”
the non-voidy customisations ended up being canon, just as how blue eyed blood elves ended up being canon. There’s actually a non-voidy skinned void elf that joins your expedition in the alpha (who ends up getting killed early on but neither here nor there)
I’ll have to ask around but I have a hunch that most Void Elf fans don’t really mind. And if/when High Elf customisations do happen, that doesn’t mean Void Elves can’t get any more customisations.
The expansion will be based in Horde territory, but realistically, if a Horde aligned faction wants Alliance help, they should expect that some of that territory will be settled by alliance groups, even if temporarily. If an expansion was focused in Elywnn Forest, I would also expect the Horde to have a few settlements and to be able to pass through Stormwind without fear of being attacked.
No you don’t. If the roles would be reversed you can expect an army of MHPs to throw a tantrum about ANY Horde presence being there at all. Just like the Horde wasn’t even allowed a permanent presence in Exodar despite us helping Velen multiple times. This is a awful double standard.
This is entire debate is about a name tag. The aesthetics are already playable but its not enough for some people.
The fact that after all this time, you reduce the discussion to this, shows that you learned nothing and are not really interested in hearing other people, and are not worth interacting with.
You already can look like a normal high elf by using different skin colors on the void elf. You factualy complain about a race name trying to convince everyone that it is somehow different.
I think the VE and the SC will be there a bit longer than temporarily. I will say permenantly.
And that’s why High Elves mostly kept themselves to their Kingdom and after the troll Wars humans had to bot use the old Promise made by Elves (Which resulted with High Elves only sending a token force of Rangers) and the Horde actually posing a threat to Silvermoon. And after the Second War the Kingdom of Quel’Thalas officially withdrew from the Alliance. Some Elves stayed, yes but considering the modern High Elves consisted of roughly 1% of the total Population of High Elves prior to the Third War (10% of Survivors which themselves were 10% of Pre War Population) their presence likely wasn’t significant and was mostly limited to Dalaran and some Priests from the Church of Light. You’re really trying way too hard to push the LotR esque narrative.
And if they stay they will have to accept the fact that the city is part of the Horde. Because they likely won’t be given sovereignty.
One last time: Blizzard could have wrote the story in a way that every Void Elf is changed by the void magic, with a darker skin tone and tentacles. Despite that being the original state of the playable VE, they didn’t. Instead, the prototype Void Elf in the story was a Quel’dorei legend, a ranger that even pointed out that the VE’s physical mutation was an accident. Then they put HE and BE into Telogrus rift who wanted to study the void, just like Alleria - without being corrupted by it.
Again: Don’t blame the players and their wishes for something that Blizzard established.
And with that, I’m out of this conversation, it’s moving in circles anyway.
It doesn’t move in circles.
The end point is always the fact that Blizzard does not want to duplicate a core Horde race to the Alliance. It is not a circle if there is point blank refusal to accept that ultimate, clinching fact.
With any luck, this will be the expansion that high elves officially become blood and void elves and the name high goes away forever.
A nice way to end the race for good.
And with that im muting this thread
EU helfers are the absolute worst.
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Well I suppose the ultimate troll is that Lor’themar declares their days of mourning are done and renames them High Elves, but that would be too funny to even contemplate as a result.
More likely he would simply they are all High Elves. Even Void Elves.
Sadly I don’t think Blizzard has enough balls to. Consider that move. Which is a shame cause that would be hilarious.
Genuinely funny, but likeliest outcome is an attempt to reclassify the term ‘high elf’ as belonging to everyone. So you are a Void Elf and a high elf. And a Blood Elf and a high elf.
Kinda like you can be Norwegian but also scandinavian. You make the name a hell of a lot less meaningful by broadening it but most can live with that.