Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024 (Part 1)

You are brave referencing an ip infringing project, may Blizzard be merciful on your soul :eyes:

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I just find it a shame that the Writing team pushes Alliance characters into the foreground even when we deal with one of the core Horde Race’s Capital.

Hell they went ahead to ensure no troll in the Amani Questline have the Horde ties. Yes somehow the Raventusk we meet there are completely separate from the ones residing in Hinterlands

What happened with the Amani is understandable. When the Old Horde collapsed in the aftermath of Doomhammer’s defeat at the Battle of Blackrock, they simply returned to their old ways. When their old enemies the High Elves joined the Horde they got pissed off.

The Revantusk is a little surprising, but nothing that overly bothers me.

Yes I am aware of the Amani. But Raventusk are the second case the Writing team basically makes sure to erase any Horde affiliation. The same way they already did in Undermine in which they went way out of their way to explain that Bilgewater outside of small numbers aren’t horde affiliated. Well that and basically making Gazlowe useless for the most part

Uhm, yes they do.

You could argue BFA was the biggest Horde vs Alliance expansion, until we ended up beating N’zoth and Azshara one after another, I don’t exactly see your point.

We have several prominent High Elf assets in Midnight, we’ve got Vereesa being involved from the get go, along with the Silver Covenant. And it’s clear they have a part to play in the story.

Either way - I don’t know why you brought that up, outside of the expansion the Quel’dorei should be playable just as much as Ren’dorei are playable.

They have just as much to give to the story. High Elves already exist in the game, and wouldn’t need to be forced into the setting like Void Elves have had to be since their introduction.

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you mean the project you and HE fanclub worship all the time ?

I see you addressed zilch of what I brought up and clung to your own preconceptions.

I demonstrated elven gear in the expansion comes in two flavours, Blood Elven and Void Elven. Where’s the Alliance High Elven equivalent if they are the third element?

There are two elements.

And Vereesa, the sole Alliance High Elf of note, is involved because she is a Windrunner and is used because she has two far more famous and impactful sisters and, now, a far more impactful nephew.

And they have nothing to give the story. Their story is done. Void Elves have supplanted them in every meaningful way. Of course, the lore reasons they aren’t playable are just that, the lore reasons.

The gameplay reason is, as usual, they are a duplicate of a core Horde race and are as likely to be playable for the Alliance as the Grimtotem Tauren are for that reason.

Fun fact, a project I only found out about 3 months ago. So yes I damn sure worship it :dracthyr_hehe_animated:

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Yes, out of nowhere, might I add. As always you just bring in something that wasn’t even spoken about in the first place - Was it your attempt to try to derail what I said? Who knows.

Anyway,

High Elves should be playable, to complete the thalassian triad in the world.

You claimed the story would need to be rewritten for it to make sense, which is nonsense, as High Elves already exist as an organic race in the world, one which is supported by Blizzard both in story and assets, separated from Blood and Void Elves.

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You are the one who argued Blizzard sees thalassians as a triad. Yet if they did, then as I said, why is that not reflected in how they have structured aesthetics and rewards?

There is no thalassian triad. There are two flavours, Blood Elves (of whom the Alliance High Elves are rebels) and Void Elves. The Alliance High Elves are as distinct from the Blood Elves as the Grimtotem are from the Bloodhoofs. The Alliance High Elves have as distinct an aesthetic as the Grimtotem have from the Bloodhoofs. In other words, none at all.

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Because they want to keep it a surprise.
Duuuh. :blush:

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As for the rewards - we still have the whole expansion to go, I’m sure we’ve not seen the end of it.

And it was a duality prior to Void Elves introduction.
Now it’s a triad.

Quel’dorei - Ren’dorei - Sin’dorei.
Blue - Purple - Red

They’re all represented in-game as unique with their own philosophies.

There’s enough nuance to go around for all of them, and they all make eachother more interesting.

To not include Quel’dorei as a playable race is a disservice to all.

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It was never a duality prior to the introduction of Void Elves. Alliance High Elves are rebels. And they aren’t really color coded, there are blue sets under the Blood Elf gear that has been datamined. Halduron Brightwing has been known to wear bright blue armor himself.

Alliance High Elves are just rebels of an already playable group, same as the Grimtotems are. Just as there is no need to make a separate Grimtotem race playable…or Defias Brotherhood race playable…there is no need for an Alliance High Elf race. Nor is there going to be, as we now know, Midnight isn’t going to have one and if it was ever going to happen, now would be the time.

The light has finally showed you the way.

Bless you re, child. :dracthyr_comfy_sip:

Gabriela is back after she said she was done on this thread? Lmao it was a short forever.

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Ahahhahaha I knew it! We are back to High Elves dont exist. They just keep rotating on the same points LOL

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Few pointers for High Elves:

  • Adhering to a long history of cooperation with the Alliance nations, mainly Dalaran but also other city-states.
  • They were never directly or indirectly corrupted by fel
  • They remained in the Alliance, they’re not rebels. Most never left except the few who were outright banished for not agreeing with Lor’themar’s direction.
  • They intentionally change their dresscode as to not be confused with their Sin’dorei brethren.
  • They now have a base in southern Quel’thalas.
  • Most High Elves of Quel’Danil stopped practicing magic outright.

Grimtotem Tauren:

  • Goons of Magatha Grimtotem who paint their black fur with red ink and are openly hostile towards outsiders.

(???)

One is definitely more nuanced and also happens to be a long wanted playable race.

Just because you don’t think there’s a need doesn’t mean there isn’t one. You keep dancing around different points, over and over.

But the fact is, High Elves exist as an organic race in the world, distinct from Blood and Void Elves. Blizzard keeps showcasing them, we’re being teased at this point.

They deserve to be playable.

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So if someone were to say Grimtotem Tauren shouldn’t be playable because Tauren are already an option, you’d accuse that person of saying Grimtotem Tauren don’t exist.

Ok then, if that is the argument you want to make…

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hello back, dear house-elf.

I am a paying customer too yet that didn’t stop Blizzard from ruining the Horde in bfa and turning the lore into an alliance only show from shadowlands onward. You are therefore entitled to nothing. Ever.