Well did the human lady at least invite you for dinner before dragging you to the bedroom? Heard it’s pretty popular among the High Elves.
At least the orc pets as you called them managed to retake their land and rebuild what was lost while High Elves stewed on the injustice that met them.
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The Orcs didn’t mingle with us. There isn’t half orc hybrid kids out there with longer ears. But it seems Blizzard is digging the half elf trope from other franchises really hard.
You mean them being exiled by the racial leader from the high home because they refused to suck magic out of living beings?
I am sure that’s the injustice you are on about. The blatant betrayal of their kind joining the horde and bombing Theramore?
Those are actual in-game lines from NPC’s.
So yes the injustice inflicted upon them by their own people.
So Sin’Dorei might be labeled “treacherous elves”.
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Theramore bombing was an act conducted by Garrosh. Outside of few selected beings nobody in the Horde had any idea what was going to happen. Instead they fought and died trying to take over Theramore. Hell the Horde side of that scenario is basically the Horde players taking part in the direct assault that for Garrosh was just a smokescreen.
As for Joining the Horde. Are we going to forget that the the Highest ranking official of the Alliance sanctioned by both Stormwind and Ironforge tried to have Kael’thas and his Elves, that joined his efforts to try and MEND the rifts formed after Quel’dorei left the Alliance, killed on a suicidal mission and when that failed was going to execute them?
Not that Silver Covenant was much better when they were given a free hand during the Purge of Dalaran. Oh how scary must have been the Blood Elf Civilians that any sign of resistance was met with swift death at the hand of Vareesa and her underlings. Same Vareesa that would later consider dying and JOINING HORDE because screw everything she only needs her Sister.
And you know what’s funny? Varian Wrynn - the High King of the noble and honorable Alliance didn’t even consider it a deal breaker. He was willing to let it all slide if it meant he’d have Sin’dorei Join him. Theramore? Stealing the Divine Bell? Irrelevant if the Sin’dorei were to join his cause. Such loyalty isn’t it?
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Chopitty chop! Dont deal with terrorists.
And that’s why you don’t deal With Varessa, Umbric and Alleria. Sadly I’m not given an option to ignore them or introduce them to my sword.
We’re also talking merchants and civilians who had nothing to do with like what a few Sunreavers loyal to Garrosh that snuggled the Bell out.
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What about Theramore. What about their merchants and civilians? Garrosh was the leader of the Horde, and thus any part of his military and logistics were fair play.
The Manabomb that they dropped on Theramore was engineered by Thalen Songweaver, which would you know is a Blood Elf. He knew what the end goal was of the device. As anyone who worked on it. It was more than a handful.
Did the purge of Dalaran happen before or after the betrayal from the Sun reavers? (You know moving the divine bell through their city). As blizzard confirmed them being involved. And did Jaina not offer them to leave freely before the “purge” happened? I believe she told them to leave freely or face imprisonment. Eathas Sunreaver refused to leave, so the blood is on his hands due to his arrogance.
I always love how they come back to the Dalaran purge, ignoring of course all the atrocities they have committed.
Grasping at straws, you are referring to the Grand Marshall Othmar Garithos yes?
Who was never sanctioned by Stormwind or Ironforge and was a blatant non-human hater. He however is not part of the current alliance and never was. He was the leader of the alliance of lordearon
Which were these human kingdoms: Stormwind, Lordaeron, Stromgarde, Dalaran, Gilneas, Kul Tiras, and Alterac. Dwarves of Ironforge and the Gnomes.
You know that the other leaders already were missing, dead or unaware of his actions. It also didn’t help that Anasterian Sunstrider withdrew his forces after the second war. Which only soured the relationship.
So far it’s 5 crimes by the blood elves and 1 for the Silver Convenant actually, it was also stated that they did what they did as vengeance for their exile and death of a certain father of two children
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Took a bit longer to write than I wanted. Because I’m writing a wall of text on my phone.
But with this I wish you a goodnight ~ I’ll catch up tomorrow on the rest of the conversation.
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And yet Not a single member of the Horde outside of his very small inner circle knew about the plan to use the bomb. Not Vol’jin, not Baine, not Sylvanas and not Lor’themar. None of them had any idea what was the Warchief’s plan.
And somehow the atrocity and lives lost were not a problem for Varian who tried to convince the Blood Elves to rejoin the Alliance. Theramore? Tragic but hey getting those treacherous elves on the side of alliance is more important.
Garrosh was punished. Jaina was not.
Why should she? She was the victim.
The Ironforge accepted him as de facto representative of the Alliance which is why he even had access to Dwarven Riflemen and their mortar teams. Stormwind never distanced themselves from him something that even SI:7 considers a mistake. And the Great Alliance is a direct continuation of the Alliance of Lordaeron. At no point did Stormwind declared their secession from it. They just slowly lost the remaining allies after the second and as a result of third war.
5? I feel like you simply decided to arbitrary charge the entire population of Blood Elves with the crimes of the horde and its warlord even if Blood elves didn’t participate in those.
And yet Varian basically called them and Jaina idiots because their vengeance costed the Alliance a potential ally. Your beloved High King didn’t care who died if by the end of the day the Alliance were to gain from it
As for the Purge. Yes Jaina was according to the final draft set on imprisoning the Blood Elves. Silver covenant added to that cutting of any way the Blood elves could leave the city (killing their Dragonhawks) and killing anyone that shown the signs of resistance. Heroic and noble. And so utterly pointless.
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She wasn’t. She killed alot of innocent elves. And later trolls when the alliance sieged their city. And every time she gets away with it because unlike Sylvanas she is the factual writers pet.
Her town got blown to oblivion, and somehow she is also the culprit. Can’t make this up.
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The purge of Dalaran had nothing to do with theramore.
Official Horde Involvement: While many individual blood elves and their general leadership (like Lor’themar Theron) were unaware of Garrosh’s full plan and some even opposed his methods, the Sunreavers (the blood elf faction within the Kirin Tor) provided two ships of warriors to participate in the battle, and were later implicated in the events surrounding the aftermath, which led to the Purge of Dalaran.
I rest my case.
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Take part IN BATTLE. As in being the decoys and acceptable loses for the plan to succeed.
Yes and no, to see that, you have to look at Jaina’s life:
She helped Thrall’s horde, even sacrificed her father and the goodwill of her own family for it. She worked with Thrall to establish peace between both factions.
Then Jaina’s old home was blown to bits by Garrosh and the same Horde she had given so much for. Her old life and many people she cared for died that day.
She struggled, then found a new home and purpose in Dalaran, even accepting Aethas and the Sunreaves despite their affiliation to the Horde. When Aethas then helped Garrosh, the very warchief that had already destroyed her old home, of course, she went nuts.
And instead of showing Aethas’ dilemma and present him as a sympathetic figure in an impossible situation - actually giving him depth - Blizzard just wrote him as a stupid, arrogant wannabe leader who didn’t even try to protect his Sunreavers.
It’s kind of sad that Jaina, despite being the aggressor in this scenario, acted more rational and competent than Aethas.
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To be perfectly honest for all the attempts at maintaining Peace Jaina didn’t do anything to stop the Alliance from using Theramore as their gateway to Kalimdor and escalate the local conflicts. In the end it was a perfectly valid target and who knows… Maybe if Baine didn’t go and warn about the attack (which resulted in Alliance including Archmage of Dalaran and Silver Covenant fortifying the city) Theramore would still be there. Because ultimately Garrosh didn’t care about the city. He hoped to cripple the alliance by killing as many of their officers through the use of the mana bomb.
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The manabomb wasnt dropped on purpose to kill elves only but to kill alliance, elves were colateral casualties
The witch + silver terrorist covenant killed elves on purpose and also civillians elves
the bomb is about war situation on an allisnce city
The witch and the terrorist covenant killed elves in a sanctuary area
In another universe she and elves will be excomunicado and sentenced to death
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