You can’t drop a bomb on a city and say “we’ll only select these targets and spare the rest”. If you want something more precise an invasion would be better.
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Doesnt change the fact that the witch must be judged and sentenced to death
And probably same thing for silver covenant
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I didn’t play MoP, but from what I gather, the Purge of Dalaran was mostly just arresting Sunreavers. There were deaths, but there were 5 blood elf deaths, 3 high elf deaths, and one human death.
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The silver covenant went out of its way to kill fleeing civilians and rob them.
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Again you’re putting actions of one Orc and his closest supporters (the rest of the Horde was kept in the dark in regards of the Siege of Theramore’s true purpose, they fought, bleed and died believing they would take over the city through combat) on the shoulders of all under him. So should we take the fact that Varian (The High King of the Alliance) negotiated with Lor’themar for quite a while before the Purge as everyone in Alliance accepting Blood Elves? Obviously not.
The bombing itself was what triggered the first warning lights for most Horde leaders that Garrosh does not consider lives of non orcs important. Yes some elements in all societies remained loyal to Hellscream regardless. Majority of the Blood Elves? Not so much.
In the end Blood Elves ended up being pushed towards the Horde twice over. Bigotry of Grand Marshal Garrithos the first time around. Then the Purge of Dalaran for the second. There’s some truth to the statement made by Lor’themar by the end of the Purge. The New Horde exists mainly due to prejudices of the opposing side. And it was somewhat validated by the lore ever since Vanilla. Dwarven Excavation in the Barrens did not consider Taurens as more than Savages and obstacle that needed to be removed. Hell they wanted to convince Ironforge to send an army and build a proper Alliance Foothold from which they could go further into the continent. Nor did Alliance characters in Theramore considering Horde as anything but savages to be killed (as seen for example during the Horde side of the questline involving the burned down Inn).
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Who cares about some Blood Elves traitors then?
Now the Alliance is saving them, again. Say thank you, you ingrates.
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Saying the void elf
Don’t let them bait you. If we say nothing the topic will die on its own.
You say nothing its bliss around here.
Dont you have some complaining to do about “Alliance focus” on other thread? Be on your way.
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Apparently you considering you so desperately want to olay them in Blue.
Is that a thank you? You need a bit of practice.
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If I didn’t know any better I’d think the antis are in the closet about wanting high elves.
After all, these people are so passionate against high elves they’re willing to keep the topic alive
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Need some form of entertainment. Not like keeping the topic alive or dead will make any difference considering you’ve been making them for 20 years and nothing changed. Not that the devs are even reading those.
Something did change though. Void Elves were given non-voidy customisations in Shadowlands.
And also, people have been wanting housing for a very long time, and look where that got them.
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And it’s still not enough for you is it? You won’t be happy till you either get your Carbon copy of Blood Elves in Alliance or be able to absolutely erase “Void” from your existing alliance elf and have the game recognize that.
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Exactly. Note how the compromise isn’t treated as a compromise but as an indication that if they keep complaining eventually they will get their way.
I figure the announcement of high elves in classic plus will set it all off again in retail.
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I think that is a common misconception.
He pushed keal’thas out of the alliance and into the arms of the legion through Illidan and his naga allies.
What pushed them the first time was alliance spys and sabotage aimed to cripple them even further by distrupting their arcane sanctums.
This is just my theory.
What triggered this action from the alliance is not clear (to me) but I assume the draenei crash landing with a sizeable force of hostile blood elves could be the reason.
If so the draenei initial quest zones would reveal the blood elves were working with the legion or at least dark forces thus giving the alliance a reason to spy on their former allies and stop whatever they were up to.
The blood elves were still loyal to keal’thas up until the last patch of TBC where sunfury deserters (the scryers) revealed keal’thas betrayel.
So the alliance would have had plenty of reason to believe they were no longer their friends.
What further pushed them to join the horde initially was the aid from the Forsaken.
The only large faction to seek them out with promise of aid and support, which they delivered by not only killing the leader of the scourge in the ghostwoods, but also secure their borders against the amani trolls and alliance night elf spies.
Considering they were stretched thin, was combating with magic addiction, social unrest and hostile groups, taking the forsakens aid was more of a desperate gamble which paid off and because of that, Forsaken introduced them to the wider horde.
Garrosh made them reconsider up until Jaina (but mainly the silver covenant) went full stratholm on the blood elf population in dalaran.
in short.
Vereesa Windrunner and Sylvanas Windrunner is a dorminant reason why the blood elves are still horde.
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Out of curiosity, do we know how many blood elves died during the purge?
I remember once reading:
- 5 blood elves
- 3 high elves
- 1 human
That died, but I don’t remember where and if the source is canon.
Unsure
Blizzard did change it so they were “captured”
those numbers may be the “confirmed” kills from combind horde and alliance side of the quest chain.
Such as the blood elf in the bank, getting his savings only to be killed by the alliance champion, on vereesas orders, and his wealth claimed by the silver covenant.
And the blood elf which is eaten alive by the sewer sharks when a horde champion try to save them from a silver covenant grunt.
If we assume the killing of random hostile NPCs count as well, we probably have numbers closer to:
- 15 Blood Elves
- 13 High Elves
- 1 human?
all in all a small number, but the brutality on display more than make up for it.
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I believe that’s the official count of how many characters players are forced to kill during the core questline on both sides.
For the Purge the main problem is that Silver Covenant in their Questline for alliance shifted from Jaina’s stance of Imprisonment or Exile to Imprisonment or Death, with them purposefully cutting off any way the Sunreavers would have to escape the city.
As for the exact numbers we don’t know. Though I believe the release of the Sunreavers that were imprisoned in Violet Hold was never mentioned so we don’t know how many were and died there.
I believe Garrithos actions made some of the Blood Elves in power disillusioned with the Humans and their Alliance. Now whether we consider Modern Alliance a separate new entity or a continuation of the old Alliance is up to debate though I believe Blizzard went on to say it’s the Latter. I might be wrong about this.
Hard to say where both Draenei and Belf stories start exactly but there’s also Night Elves to consider. Despite Tyrande’s more open minded approach the Highborne were still a stigma for the Night Elves and apparently they didn’t shy from telling the old stories to the Alliance and warning them about potential danger the Blood Elves could represent.
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