Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024 (Part 1)

Indeed, I don’t think we’ll get more than that - at most I think we might be able to get a Passive customization change like the Man’ari.

Other than that, yeah… I sincerely hope they revamp the whole Allied Race system at some point. xD

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Moment that is accepted then I’ll be happy to stop restating it.

What’s this? The use of logic to discern why it isn’t happening? Congratulations, there is no Horde equivalent that can be offered in exchange, a reason as to why it is unlikely.

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Nobody ever argued against that.

If anything, 90% of this thread is full of inventive ideas on how Blizzard could tackle it.

From easy fixes like the Man’ari passive change (although not satisfactory to everyone),
to a hard fix on how to reinvent the Allied Race-System.

I personally think that due to how the character screen is hardcoded, they cba working around it - so the most likely future change is a complete overhaul.

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Why do they need to fix the Allied race system?

And 90% of this thread is filled with the same back and forth bickering that has been going on for the better part of two decades.

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Same. Even though I love the idea of more customizations, some of these concepts just seem weirdly impractical to me. I never understood the point of creating Highmountain Tauren when the original Tauren customization is still kind of sad when compared to the other races.

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I would argue that allowing it to be a race of its own allows blizzard to make other things that are usually tied to that races culture moreso then the races biology

Like a heritage set to name a quick example off the top of my head.

Otherwise I do get it some of the allied races just look too much like the races they are branch-offs from.

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I play a highmountain in remix right now. They are so much better then regular tauren.

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To be fair as far as I can tell Highmountain Taurens are the only group that didn’t almost drive themselves to extinction through their passiveness and pacifist nature.

I don’t think you will find many who disagree a majority of the allied races feel like a wasted slot.
We could have gotten some of the actual allied races instead but here we are.

But because we are in this silly situation where highmountain is different from tauren, there is reasonble enough doubt to allow high elves.
Which is the strongest pro argument I can think of.

And Baine being their leader made it worse.

Why wouldn’t they? It’s bloated and like I said, I think from a coding perspective it’s probably hard to deal it without unraveling a lot of other stuff. Some things just need a bit of remaking. It’s old and messy and this goes for a lot of systems in wow.

And apart from all the arguments you go back and forth between, I mean seriously, you never stop switching things up… which is good for the thread I guess, most people tend to talk about what Blizzard has added and that they keep it up.

At this point, people like you seem to have some kind of vendetta.
Terrified of being proven wrong, after all this yapping you’ve been doing, perhaps?

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I’m not sure which ones tho, other then maybe some of the more beastly races. Hozen/Jinyu I like being a pandaria thing specifically. I don’t think anyone is waiting on something like Drogbar either, kobolds? harpies? gnolls? don’t think any would make sense on alliance atleast.

Everyone hates naga, they are everyones enemy except for themselves (which is a shame cause they’re my favourite race but I wouldn’t want to see lore bent to make it fit)

Oh yeah and its also why I always advice people who do argue for playable helf to do so as a standalone race and not settle as another races customization.

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I am not so certain, I think the allied races could be removed fairly easily, but the outcry from the player base and the removal or conversation of existing player characters would be a PR nightmare, and you usually don’t want to cause those.

See, I didn’t say allied races, I said:

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Yes, yes, the very sad ‘oh you are saying stuff in this thread, bumping it and keeping the topic alive thread which totally means they are a million percent more likely to add it’. I remember a woman from around BFA who had the same attitude, always squeeing when losing yet another argument that ‘you’re keeping the topic alive lol k thx bye!’.

Eight years since then. I wonder how she is doing now. Keeping the topic alive does jack all. As I said before, the devs don’t read this and the Mods likely skim it. These megathreads are for containment, an attempt to contain a really annoying topic in one place so they can see less of it.

Because it takes developer time to redo, because they have a system in place of unlocking them they are using which is tied to valuable lore, because folks asked for the subrace system back in the day and here it is, because they aren’t going to mess with everyone’s racials (which would be necessitated by some kind of overhaul) and pissing people off either by removing them or mixing them. Even offering a choice would create a de facto ‘you have to use THIS racial or you are playing wrong’ pressure. That, and your motivations are corrupt. You don’t want to overhaul the system for its own benefit, but to try and justify an Alliance High Elf option on Void Elves.

Blizzard will forever be cowards until they release the monkey from the cage.
I want to be a hozen, heck I want to be a jinyu as well.
even an ogre is not off the table.
I just want to be some ugly/stupid/mean/funny looking race!

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Wasn’t the allied race system introduced so blizzard didn’t have to make starter zones and other such polish we had come to expect from and was unique to World of Warcraft?

Now that we have our very boring homogenous starter island that does little to introduce or endear you to your chosen characters race that feels more like a mechanical recap then a narrative experience technically allied races as a concept no longer need to exist.

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sephirothposting

My mistake then.

To be fair Highmountain Tauren are roughly about as different from Kalimdor Tauren as the Thalassian Elves are from Night Elves. The races were separated during the Sundering and since then developed independently.