Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024 (Part 2)

[Blazeddemon-nemesis]

Hello everyone. I’ve played Warcraft 3 RoC and Frozen Throne 22 years ago, I always liked the High Elves in the Alliance i wanted to play them very bad i hope one day we get to play them.

We got Void elves but thats a cheap move by blizzard and it’s not a middle ground i don’t like it.

Please after 22 years us HighElves fan deserve to have them as playable characters.

[Alfiriniel-silvermoon]

And the troll is trolling

[Kiryanor-grim-batol]

@Amora-argent-dawn

The penitent are a minority.

And that Minority is what you as a player play. Because again game mechanics do not allow you to live proper fantasy of the other side

[Amora-argent-dawn]

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

And that Minority is what you as a player play. Because again game mechanics do not allow you to live proper fantasy of the other side

You seem to be missing the point.

I’ll say it again:

@Amora-argent-dawn

An Eredar player can still pretend they never had anything to do with the Draenei (pre or post-exile), just the same way a High Elf player can pretend they had nothing to do with Void Elves from a direct in-game perspective.

The same way a Dracthyr who wants nothing to do with their dracthyr form, and stays in their humanoid form will make up the rest of their own story and play as though they’re just a human/elf/whatever with X features.

Void Elves lose nothing by having the customization, they get more stuff while they can still play their preferred race.

It’s meant for the players.

[Kiryanor-grim-batol]

And the game will still rein in their Fantasy. Players pretending to not be Penitents will still be friendly to Alliance and Hostile to legion. Dracthyr will still revert to their dragon form whenever they use their racial or in combat if you’re Evoker. The Visage is literally written as their lore though. And you can already pretend to not be tainted elf except the racial will make you go void in combat. Or you’ll be unable to enter Ironforge and Stormwind and be occasionally refered as Horde if you take the other route.

Except you want another step further. You want to disable purple blood, Racial skill visuals and reverb in the voice so you can fully be allowed your fantasy in a way Dracthyr and Playable Man’ari can’t.

You seriously don’t see a difference in the level of demand here?

[Linir-twisting-nether (Linir)]

Imma be honest, I had a laugh. The “reeeeeee” at the end got me.

[Amora-argent-dawn]

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

Except you want another step further. You want to disable purple blood, Racial skill visuals and reverb in the voice so you can fully be allowed your fantasy in a way Dracthyr and Playable Man’ari can’t.

I’d personally be happy with the passive toggle effect. I think Void Elves would like that option as well. Blizzard has already done that to a degree with Blessing of the Naaru for Man’ari, whether it’ll be changed or allowed to be an optional toggle doesn’t matter to me.

As for the rest? Eh, it’s unlikely to happen unless they make some big changes to customization overall.

[Linir-twisting-nether (Linir)]

@Amora-argent-dawn

I think Void Elves would like that option as well.

“They were transformed by void ethereals but rescued by Alleria Windrunner, who had gained mastery of the Void herself on Argus and taught them how to control their dark powers.”

Let me control the power then, instead of a silly passive.

[Kaeros-dentarg]

@Amora-argent-dawn

Yes, they said that, which also made no sense when most of the items in question may as well be straight out of Pandaria.

I wouldn’t put too much meaning into it, yet. It felt more like a forced point to make the whole practice seem less bad.

Of course you wouldn’t put much meaning into it. The confirmation that they consider core fantasies of importance is exactly what I have been trying to convey to those of you who keep reaching for the ‘personal customization’ rationale as if it was a trump card. The Core Fantasy of a Void Elf is being a void transformed thalassian elf.

Your ‘suggestions’ undermine that and always have done. Why would they even promote the concept of a core fantasy on the one hand, and then turn around and wreck the core fantasy of void elves on the other? You’ve said before, you either don’t care, or say they can come up with some ridiculous cover story to justify it which is simply another way of saying you don’t care.

But it’s fine if you don’t care. They’ll just continue to develop the game their way.

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

Exactly. Man’ari do NOT take from Draenei because they were designed as an addition and expansion. Introduction of their customization served to build upon the lore of Eredar Race after the Burning Legion has Fallen. It helps that Draenei already had the Fel corrupted Variant in their midst from day One - the Broken.

Exactly. Man’ari Draenei expand the Draenei race, and they hope to be Draenei again themselves through repentence. It also helps that there isn’t a race of Man’ari Draenei present on the Horde, meaning players didn’t have the option to begin with.

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

The proposed customization for Void Elves all boil down to substraction. There is no lore or story you can derive from it that would Enrich the Void Elf Fantasy because you never design it with that in mind. Because the moment you attach Void Elf onto that set in its lore they lose the purpose you want them to serve.

And again, exactly. Their proposals are designed to undermine the core fantasy of the Void Elves, at best they think a story can be constructed to justify it, at worst they simply don’t care how it is done, so long as it is done.

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

And that Minority is what you as a player play. Because again game mechanics do not allow you to live proper fantasy of the other side

Again, exactly. You are on fire today.

[Kiryanor-grim-batol]

I don’t think Void Elves care if their Racial Turns them Purple in combat. I Honestly didn’t even notice that on my Warlock Void Elf (Which for the RP purposes would still refer to himself as Blood Elf because he could hardly care about identifying himself as distinct being, he’s too busy with his research)

[Amora-argent-dawn]

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

I don’t think Void Elves care if their Racial Turns them Purple in combat. I Honestly didn’t even notice that on my Warlock Void Elf (Which for the RP purposes would still refer to himself as Blood Elf because he could hardly care about identifying himself as distinct being, he’s too busy with his research)

Okay, good for you.

Most people do notice it, however.

[Kaeros-dentarg]

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

I don’t think Void Elves care if their Racial Turns them Purple in combat. I Honestly didn’t even notice that on my Warlock Void Elf (Which for the RP purposes would still refer to himself as Blood Elf because he could hardly care about identifying himself as distinct being, he’s too busy with his research)

Most players don’t. These guys do, because it reminds them they are a Void Elf. And it is indicative of the core fantasy of what a void elf is. Now, objectively, this isn’t going to happen. They MAY remove the racial at some point, or alter it, but they aren’t going to provide a toggle to placate some RP’ers. Particularly, as you point out, it’s a slippery slope. They won’t be satisifed, they will want more. Nothing short of perfection will suffice.

The very notion is ludicrous.

[Amora-argent-dawn]

@Kaeros-dentarg

And again, exactly. Their proposals are designed to undermine the core fantasy of the Void Elves, at best they think a story can be constructed to justify it, at worst they simply don’t care how it is done, so long as it is done.

You seem to deeply misunderstand what the RP aspect means in the MMORPG we’re playing.

[Linir-twisting-nether (Linir)]

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

Except you want another step further. You want to disable purple blood, Racial skill visuals and reverb in the voice so you can fully be allowed your fantasy in a way Dracthyr and Playable Man’ari can’t.

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

I don’t think Void Elves care if their Racial Turns them Purple in combat. I Honestly didn’t even notice that on my Warlock Void Elf

So which one is it?

[Amora-argent-dawn]

@Linir-twisting-nether

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

Except you want another step further. You want to disable purple blood, Racial skill visuals and reverb in the voice so you can fully be allowed your fantasy in a way Dracthyr and Playable Man’ari can’t.

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

I don’t think Void Elves care if their Racial Turns them Purple in combat. I Honestly didn’t even notice that on my Warlock Void Elf

So which one is it?

I get the feeling they don’t really know what they’re arguing for, they just like arguing. xD

[Moritz-hellfire]

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

I don’t think Void Elves care if their Racial Turns them Purple in combat.

The racial is one of my favourite parts about being a void elf.

I love it

[Starverse-argent-dawn]

this is still going? lmao

[Linir-twisting-nether (Linir)]

And no one said to take it away.

[Rightface-draenor]

@Starverse-argent-dawn

this is still going? lmao

Till the end of time .welcome to the club

[Amora-argent-dawn]

@Moritz-hellfire

@Kiryanor-grim-batol

I don’t think Void Elves care if their Racial Turns them Purple in combat.

The racial is one of my favourite parts about being a void elf.

I love it

And I love that you love it.

We’re not asking for it to be removed.