Linir just said that…literally, made mention that all Thalassians should be neutral through nonsense bias.
Absolutely not.
High Elves should stand on their own two feet and not leach from the Sin’dorei nor should the radical high elf supporters gaslight the Blood Elf fanbase because I’ve seen that sort before. It doesn’t end with “Neutral Silvermoon.” It always extends to “Make Silvermoon Alliance.”
Except they have now started introducing Void Elf NPCs who use those tones, there are a few in K’aresh. I can’t see them as an expression of being an Alliance High Elf as a result and simply a part of the range of being a Void Elf. My personal headcanon are that these are Void Elves who have only recently been transformed (Ennas the Faithfallen and Lyanna Skystrider in Telrogus both use normal skin tones and have clearly only recently embraced the void) and that they will turn blue in the fullness of time. The real substance of a Void Elf is in the racials, the theme, the aesthetic they have developed and the fact they bleed purple.
I think we will have to disagree on that one, but I think Midnight will push the Void Elves to the forefront quite considerably.
I agree of course. The very existence of those assets shows that a neutral Quel’thalas is not happening. We know the art team is the bottleneck for a lot of stuff, having them do those gorgeous sails would be an unacceptable waste of time if Quel’thalas was leaving the Horde as a generic Elven design (say a phoenix) would have sufficed.
Of course, from my perspective, this ingathering of what remains of the High Elves may actually support my point. If they’re all in Quel’thalas by the end of it, then that does suggest they are being mostly retired from the narrative.
You mean what Blizzard is insinuating?
Linir is just conceptualizing about what BLIZZARD is doing.
They talk about unification, and having Alliance headquarters in Silvermoon.
And “Quel’thalas” travelers in Stormwind and Orgrimmar, where the ones in Stormwind only have blue and gold eyes as opposed to the Horde ones with blue, gold and green.
There’s a context there that you missed or are ignoring.
Just whats been datamined, and im working on assumptions. Why else would we have Quel’thalas Adventurers. Its not High Elf or Blood elf adventurers, but Quel’thalas. It implies some sort of reunification, words used by Blizzard. They are bringing all Thalassian Elves back to Silvermoon. Lets see how it pans out.
NO, you just want to steal everything from the Sin’dorei! 
/s
Yes! And then I will be going after their pets! Muahahahhaha
Fair enough. I do think you might be looking at the overall faction war of BFA and not what I’m looking at specifically. I’m not talking about the High Elf takeover of the BFA war…but the San’layn recruitment on the Alliance side - that should have been Vereesa/Silver Covenant driven.
That is a nothing comment.
Blizzard couldn’t have made it clearer that Silvermoon belongs to the Sin’dorei, first and foremost. They know this and it’s their story.
How many times does it need telling? Lor’themar must have stated it…5 times, at least. The dock between QD and Silvermoon is just “Horde Sin’dorei port.”
You try telling that to tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum
And you think I’m radical for simply being a High Elf supporter?
I’m talking about when they were first introduced. They could have just used those hairstyles for playable High elves and save us from the half-baked lore that was, playable Void Elves.
Nobody wants neutral Elves.
Most want a recognition of what makes a High Elf a High Elf, and a Blood Elf a Blood Elf, rather than the flimsy comments by the devs who insist on there being no differences, despite the obvious fact that they’ve been diverging since 2004.
My opinion is this:
Or… maybe that it’s just easier to call them “Quel’Thalas adventurer”, instead of pointing out what kind of Elf they are. Imho, you read way too much in this, it’s basically just showing where the expansion takes place.
Silverglade Refuge is now our friend.
We don’t need Silvermoon or any part of that nation. It doesn’t even fit the High Elf vibe anyway…not with portions of it being used by Warlocks and Demon Hunters.
I don’t believe those things existed at the time when Sylvanas was Ranger General and when Anasterian was the King.
I keep saying this, over and over.
High Elves are their own thing outside of Silvermoon.
And having Alliance High Elves takes nothing away from Horde Blood Elves.
If you dont want forum vacations, start to not insult users.
tell us, in 2025, tww timeline ofc… How alliance high elves are different from blood elves?
differences must be other thing than political views
we can also see on every new silvermoon pictures that there is no more Floatging Fel Crystals what its a proof than since end of tbc - day 1 Wotlk that Blood elves are thirsty satisfied by the new sunwell
so again, what is the difference between HE and BE?
Yeah it really isn’t any different to the “shadowlands adventurer” and “broken isle adventurer” we have running around the portal room. The name means nothing.
If speculation is going to happen around the adventurers, it makes more sense to question why the elves are running around stormwind at all
So why do we see these odd-ball nonsense comments about High elves holding a stake in Silvermoon (Thalassian Neutrality as a whole.)
I’ll tell you what this will do…High Elf Pilgrims of 2010 during the Quel’Delar questchain. What importance have they had since then? What role have they played? Are they independent people outside of Quel’Thalas or have they just become totally absorbed into the Blood Elf society?
What Linir is stating is basically the demise of the High Elf cause, because we’ve seen his words in action and guess what…we forgot all about those High Elves. That is what is going to happen if we get Thalassian neutrality in Silvermoon. High Elves are nothing in that. They are just absorbed into Blood Elf society.
People have stated far worse mate.
do not forget my question
what are the differences, now in 2025-26, between a HE and a BE to justify playable HE?
The weirdest thing here is that all the anti’s are vehemently against Blizzards own storytelling.
Blizzard keeps making a distinction of Blood and High Elves. Whether it’s through stories like Isle of Thunder or not.
Blood Elves aren’t inhabiting Quel’Danil, or are members of the Silver Covenant.
They are illogical and anti-lore. At worst they are intellectually dishonest, which is the most likely explanation. The amount of mental gymnastics they have to use to justify any opposition for honest High Elven implementation is ridiculous.
It’s all rooted in semantics and straight up dishonesty.
What should be the playable HE racials?
and precisely :
Why the actual BE racials cannot be the HE racials?
If arguing against playable High Elves, where they are totally independent of Silvermoon and Quel’Thalas, I agree with you.
If arguing against playable High Elves, where people want them to be deeply involved in Silvermoon and Quel’Thalas, it’s not them being dishonest. It’s the High Elf fanbase who are gaslighting.
For all the distinctions made between the two and why I love the two, High Elves in Silvermoon no longer work and I will keep reminding the High Elf fans of that. It’s a Blood Elf nation, Blood Elf city, Blood Elf everything. We High Elf fans have Silverglade, but we also have other locations like Quel’Danil, Quel’Lithien, Shandaral in Northrend.
Because Arcane Torrent used to work with Mana Tapping and the High Elves took issue with all of that.
Arcane Meditation would be a better route for playable High Elves.
The most reasonable implementation at this point would be an achievement like they’re giving Darkspear Trolls for Amani:
Allow Void Elves to have the option to hide, or change their void passives to fit the High Elven theme.
It’s the least they can do.
there is nothing like that with amani. only colours and stuff
and you remain the Void elf tooltip name
and there is no lore about that kind of arcanic teleport
what about Tmog cost reduce?