Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024 (Part 2)

Meeting you half way here.
While a treatment similar to the man’ari draenei could be done to Void elves where the passive buff doesn’t trigger a purple aura but golden or some such look, could work.
The game will still not support the full high elf fantasy and which means it wouldn’t be enough as some of the most annoying high elf stans would keep this thread alive until high elves are an offical alliance race, with its own customization, ownership of Silvermoon etc.

The toggle for the aura might be enough for you, but it won’t be enough for all.

The vast majority of High Elf players don’t want to “own” Silvermoon, and are perfectly aware of Blizzards stance towards them. The helfers who request this are usually ones in denial about why and how the Blood Elves joined the Horde.

Most of us, and I mean most of us, simply want to be able to exist in the world as any other Alliance High Elf does, and that means being separate from the Sin’dorei in every way that’s shown in game by Blizzard.

Be it in Quel’Danil, as a Dalaran Survivor, a Silver Covenant member or a person of any Alliance sub-faction that has them.

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Which would still effectively copy and paste a core race from one faction to another because the only difference stems from their political stance. Their decisions and that include the return to the Quel’dorei Name and the colors they use hold no other meaning but to manifest their disagreement with Lor’themar’s rule and politics.

It’s a request in similar vein to Horde theoretically demanding i dunno Defias Brotherhood or people of Duskwood (before they got revealed as Legion Supporters) because they disagree with Politics of Wrynns.

The request that makes sense from the story perspective but not from the gameplay one.

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And why does it matter if they were? It’s in the same spirit of Tushui and Houjin Pandaren. Nobody cares about duplicated races, as we have several at this point. What people care about is story, and there’s plenty to tell when it comes to Quel’dorei and Sin’dorei.

Alliance High Elves and Horde Blood Elves should’ve been the first official dual-faction race. They’re far more interesting than Tushui and Houjin ever were.

Yes, I know Kaeros’ example well enough.

Except unlike those examples, High Elves are already a part of the Alliance (not a hostile criminal group) and they’ve diverged from the path of the Sin’dorei since 2004.

There are more differences than the cultural ones Quel’dorei live by today, it’s also philosophical - abstaining from Rommath’s particular philosophy of surviving no matter what, which has shaped Blood Elves ever since. Their ever present need of reaching for new heights even created the Void Elves themselves, who recklessly toyed with powers to the point of exile.

At least High Elves would’ve already been a part of the original world, with interesting differences like the High Elves of Quel’Danil, who already belonged to the Alliance, with a long history of natural distrust of Silvermoon’s leadership.

Instead we ended up with an actual duplicate race, and it’s the exiled Sin’dorei who dabbled in void and they only left the Horde because they had to.

They are Sin’dorei in every important way, and now they can also have normal skin & hair colours.

What are you even fighting for?

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I can regurgitate the same response I did enough times already. I can even add to this the gameplay fact that all of the examples you’re using were introduced to both sides at the same time. Meaning no faction took from the other. Tushui and Houjin Pandaren joined the Alliance and Horde at the same time. Hell for some time the decision was purely made by the player as the Pandaren had only a single button to create one.

But you’ll ignore that because for you there is no difference.

Then allow me to ask you this. What do you offer in exchange? Which core race of the alliance would you give to the Horde unchanged, differing only in their politics. For which one you will provide enough lore backing justifying their splinter joining Horde? Humans? Dwarves? Gnomes (in all seriousness keep those), Nigh Elves? Draenei? Worgen? Go on tell me how will you make a fair deal out of it?

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Because there isn’t one. You imagine there to be one, but fact is: High Elves and Blood Elves have more intrinsic differences than the Pandaren who only chose to fight for a Faction because they just happened to run into one group before the other.

The exchange already happened.

Following in the very ironic example that you used: We already have Sin’dorei rebels on Alliance, ours just happen to come in more color variants.

What players wanted were authentic Alliance Quel’dorei, but since we don’t live in that world all we can do is ask for the compromises we have.

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How we doing in this wonderful day?

Need to cast an eye over leaks after work see if anything interesting was datamined.

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And this is the closest you’ll get. They won’t de-void them to suit a fantasy that’s against what those Elves are.

Because frankly even if they do… Maybe you and some other role players will be satisfied that you’re no longer visually denying your fantasy. But the others will demand more. Because it worked once.

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And want. I have a good feeling. Might take another year, a few more patches but I know it will be so.

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Only if you count Classic+.

Still working my way through the beta. Other than that, doing ok

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Its a great selling point for me personally.

Also I prefer sandbox to theme park, if thats what they are aiming for.

Keep us informed of any new developments.

Im gonna roll a char for some light RP on retail.

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I wish I shared your optimism. :sob: But yes, surely something will be given in an Elven centric expansion.

But knowing Blizzard and their lack of taking free W’s, who knows.

pog

Have fun. :blue_heart:

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So finally, we’re about to see Vereesa in Silvermoon city, her city. Finally.

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1st step before kneel before her regent lord

Is that an erotic fanfiction?

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Seen this discussion for years. But my question is: how could we get high elfs when their population was almost wiped out and the majority that survived turned into blood elfs and in turn, some of those became void elfs.

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How can dranei be a race if they are basically just the survivors of a ship crash?

How can maghar be a race if they are just the survivors of an AU tribe?

Void elfs originally were a dozen guys.

This argument holds less water than a sieve.

We have Lodges, Outland survivors, citizens of Alliance cities and Silver Covenant.

Comes with a question that has been answered a thousand times.

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Draeneis came in ships the size of a mountain. I’m sure you meant to say tribes, as in plural.

Blood elfs went through a ritual to become void elfs aka not a small amount.

Never said the amount was zero. But it sure is not enough to justify giving it as a race to have them be all over the place like they repopulated like rabbits.

What you’ve said doesn’t have any legs to stand on at all. As a saying we have “think further than the length of your nose”

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Amazing how you can justify all other races but cant do the same for High Elves when they have been consistently shown with presence and numbers consistent with other existing races.

You can justify the dranei tribes on a ship size of a mountain (bit of an exageration), let’s ignore the lightforge which are probably even less in number on a warship, and not take into consideration the Elven Population of at least 2 cities.

Right back at you. Just a strawman argument.

I also have a saying, if you stayed silent you would be a poet.

What’s the justification for the Maghar? Breeding like rabbits is it?

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