Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024

The most dangerous type of magic that any elves got addicted to were the Shen’dralar Elves of Eldre’Thalas. The Shen’dralar were actually the first true arcane and fel junkies.

The Highborne of Quel’Thalas were addicted to arcane sources of magic…the Shen’dralar were actually the first to become addicted to the fel magic of Immol’thar and the first fel-based Elves, again came from the Highborne Night Elves whom were transformed into Satyr.

But the Blood Elves only had roughly 6 years of fel magic, for those on Outland and about 4 and a half to 5 years for those still in Quel’Thalas and for those in Quel’Thalas, since a large portion were Farstriders and Rangers, they didn’t feel the arcane addiction like those on Outland.

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I’m hoping that this does mean playable High Elves, but we have to know that it can’t be one way - where Alliance gets one thing and the Horde doesn’t.

I think Felblood Elf features for Blood Elves only is a fair way to go.

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It feels like developers are taking a stance on this because they once said that Sin’dorei are High Elves, and now won’t back down out of fear of looking stupid.

Sin’dorei are not Quel’dorei. Biologically, yes, just like Kaldorei and Shal’dorei. Or Dwarves and Dark Iron Dwarves. Or Zandalari Trolls and Darkspear Trolls. They clearly have no problem adding different “versions” of a race.

Quel/Sin, like the other examples, are two separate factions, separated by choices, culture, locations, alliances. One of them used Fel magic to sustain themselves, and allied with the Horde. The other did no such thing, and are part of the Alliance, as they were originally. “They’re the same so why add them” - on top of the above examples, Void Elves are more Blood Elves than High Elves… They just embraced some Void magic and were shunned for it. Their arguments make no sense.

C’mon Blizz, we won’t make fun of you. Just do it. Add one of the core races (/factions) to the game and admit that adding Blueberry’orei was a bad idea.

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omg you’re all pretty calm down. lol

Moltensage is notable adolf lover and erevien is… Funny guy, so that checks out.

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No, because they have common sense. Rare commodity in this thread.

So the Sunreavers involved Dalaran into faction war by stealing and transfering dangerous artifact that was used as resonator to create a magical nuke. It is not like Jaina went to Silvermoon and tried to kill most Blood Elves specifically. Yes she was about to call swarm of water elementals and flood Orgrimmar but was calmed down by Kalecgos and Thrall. Purge of Dalaran was rather death sentence for traitorous faction withing Dalaran that assisted in genocide of Town-state of Theramore. Stop protecting your pointy eared war criminals.

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Nah. Jaina liked to pick and choose when and where neutrality applied rather than actually defining it as intended and sticking with that definition.

Furthermore, the Sunreavers targeted in the Purge of Dalaran had nothing to do with the alleged breach of neutrality. They were civilians, not soldiers.

The entire situation is a poorly written and inconsistent mess - since retconned in a book most people will never read - in no small part to this game’s consistent and laughable inability to ever hold women accountable for their actions.

Which is why the likes of Garrosh - correctly - get held accountable for their war crimes but the likes of Sylvanas, Vereesa, Jaina, Vanessa and various other women evade death.

The Alliance and Horde are both terrible and neither are particularly beneficial to the various Elven races. All of which should be at the forefront of the story more often than they are at present. (Not in the least due to how popular they are…)

The conflict began when it was discovered that Kirin Tor resources had been used to aid the Horde's theft of the Divine Bell, an ancient pandaren artifact. Lady Jaina Proudmoore, leader of the Kirin Tor, accused Archmage Aethas Sunreaver and his faction of having orchestrated the treason, and promptly declared the expulsion of all Sunreaver forces from Dalaran. It transpired that, while not having been directly involved in the theft himself, Aethas had been aware of it and chose to remain silent.[3]

In a confrontation in the Violet Citadel, Aethas refused to leave Dalaran, citing that the city belonged to the Sunreavers' as much as it did any other. In response, Jaina imprisoned him within the Citadel and began mobilizing the Silver Covenant, under the command of Vereesa Windrunner, to begin forcibly dealing with any Sunreavers who refused to surrender.[4]

The purge proved to be a bloody affair. Though compliant Sunreavers were imprisoned, many proved defiant in the face of exile from Dalaran and took up arms against Jaina, the Alliance forces, and the Silver Covenant,[5] while some Silver Covenant opportunists took the chance to rob, attack, and otherwise harass the civilians of their political rivals.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Purge_of_Dalaran

I seem to have mixed events of destruction of Theramore via stealing of focusing iris from blue dragon flight and using it to recreate Kael’Thas mana bomb by a ex Sunreavers serving the Horde and another artifact from MoP called divine bell stolen by the Horde with the help of Sunreavers. During second case of handling potentially harmful artifact to the Horde, Sunreavers were called out for their actions and sentenced for exile from Dalaran, however they refused and even took arms against ruler of the city that happened to be Jaina at the time. The mess that ensued allowed radicals among the Silver covenant and Sunreavers to start massacring each other.
So basically it were overzelaous elves that turned on other elves in Dalaran.

My question is what would the Horde do in such situation if some of their subfaction rebelled against their general policies? Well you do not need to go further than echo islands during MoP, when Darkspear tribal lands were turned into concentrational camps.

So Molten is actually a N.azi. Never thought I see any WOW user use blood purity as legitemate take why anyone is better. I stay by what I said. High elves are race traitors due to their actions against their people during TBC and the Purge of Dalaran.

If you ever wondered where the alliance forces came from. It is evident that Dalaran was never neutral and everything Jaina did was lipservice at best. She is a villain through and through.

I played Horde’s perspective of the event during MoP Remix and do not remember how it was playing out for the Alliance part of that camping as I was doing it in 2013, but I guess a presence of Alliance in Dalaran was same as Horde mostly Silver covenant (Sunreavers) elves, some civilian NPCs and sole Alliance(Horde) hero who visited Dalaran while being investigating disappearance of the Divine bell from Pandaria (trying to help Sunreavers to deal with consequences of them helping the Horde and pushing them make decision of fully joining their side).

So Alliance forces just as Horde ones were mostly guests of the city just like Horde ones were untill event happened.

You played Remix yes? Then you might remember Jaina was fully attending Varian’s war council in Pandaria long before they even found out the Divine Bell exists.

I didn’t do Landfall on Alliance, but wiki says she refused initial suggestion to expel Sunreavers and the Horde before Divine bell incident. However she helped to create magical concealment barriers to hid the bell once Alliance tried to contain it from. Garrosh.

All I can say she probably didn’t use Dalaran recources for that, being a powerfull mage herself/ She was about to after fall of Theramore, when she found tomes of Antodonias and tried to use gained knoledge to flood Orgrimmar in tidal waves, but stepped back. Sunreavers on the other hand did locate and help the Horde in stealing the Bell, knowing Garrosh would weaponize it as with every other pandaren recourse or artifact he sought interest in.

Both Jaina and Sunreavers weren’t keen on being fully neutral, however members of latter started abusing their position for the second time for destructive purposes so expulsion was mandatory. They resisted in violence and force that let to bloodshed in Dalaran.

No she didn’t. Thrall blocked her twice. She actually tried it with full intent to let it happen.

She met Varian and the rest of the alliance in the shrine of seven stars to talk how to best defeat the Horde. She was always on friendly terms with the blue team war effort Dalaran or not.

Well if Silvermoon would be nuked I bet you would too, however she stepped back when Kalecgos talked her down.

Oh, so what was her plan of destroying the Horde then? Maybe she was there to prevent radical escalation from Alliance side? Yes, yes she went full into Horde hatred mode after Purge of Dalaran and we saw her during final cinematic of SoO when she advice to kill all Horde leaders to Varian after Garrosh defeat. Without the Horde Legion would surely had succeeded in their invasion. But if Garrosh had his way he would had destroyed Alliance as well, leading to facing Legion alone as well and inevitable defeat.

She had full intentions to destroy Orgrimmar before this. Stop downplaying the event.

She never actually tried peace. Not even when Theramore existed. She allowed Stormwind to use it as harbor to land their army in the Barrens. She is nothing more then a hypocrite crybaby who always acts surprised when her bad intentions backfire in her face.

Well she didn’t aide her father in defeating the Horde in events of W3:TFT, she aided Thrall and Baine in time of need. She kept side from escalating on each other during siege of Undercity by teleporting Varian out just as he was about to lunge at Garrosh for his provoking boasting. Many times we see her as peace keeper, but during pre Cata events Garrosh fully takes Horde over and launches assault on Night Elvish lands, after Twilight Hammer created incident on the border. Maybe she understood her city would be next, so let Alliance use Theramore harbor as logistic hub while they opened second front in Barrens to help Night Elves?

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What is your source?
As far as crazy anti-fans goes that is a new one.

An event that the Alliance was absent from but was blamed for by the Horde.

A Kul Tiran Mage and High Elves punished the Horde for violating Dalarans neutrality.

Jaina Proudmoore did not participate in the events of the Legion as she lost her position as Khadgar took over.
Jaina Proudmoore only officially became Alliance as the Kul Tirans rejoined the Alliance.

The problem is how deep did the Sunreaver conspiracy go? Even those not involved directly with Garrosh Hellscream operations would lie for and cover their kin and friends leaving Dalaran compromised for Horde operations.

Jaina acted in Self defence against Blood Elves aggression as those that did not fight were unharmed.

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This is getting ridiculous now.

Yes. Blood Elves are dirty blood creatures corrupted DNA as historically speaking the Blood Elves indulged so much into the Fel that they became Felblood Elves.

The Fel corrupts everything. Green skin Orcs eventually become Fel Orcs.

So yes. Unlike the Blood Elves the High Elves DNA remains UNCORRUPTED. High Elves chose to embrace nature Blood Elves indulged in the Fel.
Felblood Elves would have procreated forever polluting the Blood Elf gene pool.