If that’s the Blood Elves, then the Shen’dralar are ten times worse, since they were gorging on Fel magic for thousands, upon thousands of years.
And Satyr / Felblood Elves…their’s no difference between them
There’s nothing Alliance fans can say, where Felblood Elves did worse than Satyr…especially considering that the Alliance employs Burning Legion overlords in the Eredar. Infact, Shen’dralar did worse than Blood Elves…so everything that Night Elf Felcasters did will always be far worse than the Blood Elves.
Some did follow their Queen Azshara and ended up as Naga.
The Saytr are corrupted beings yes.
However the Night Elves are the template that different Elves come from.
The Felblood Elves and Saytr are different peoples that walked different paths.
It does not disprove my point. High Elves are the only Uncorrupted ones left. From the portion of Nightborne that created the original Sunwell and founded Quel’Thelas.
This is not accurate. Considering there was a worse schism among the Eredar / Manari / Draenai than there was with the High Elves and Blood Elves.
I don’t see how there can be any unity lore wise. Cosmetic changes by devs create massive holes in the story. Many many souls were fuel for the Fel. Being able to ressurect in the Twisted Nether means your soul is fully demon not whatever you once was.
The crimes of the Azshara faction is well known. In Night Elf Society magecraft is still a capital offence Lorewise. Blizzard just ignored this for the Night Elf Mage player characters.
The likes of Erevien may brand Moltensage some kind of 1943 German eugenics scientist. But it does not change the fact of corrupted DNA. Any offshoot of these Elves that are not High Elves are Felblood (descendants) especially ones you factor in that (fel)Blood Elves are born magic junkies.
The Fel does harm and corrupt the Light. So the Sunwell will not necessarily cleanse the Fel Corruption. Not without a Velen like Light Powerhouse to individually cleanse the corrupted the Blood Elves.
Everything wrong with the world is the fault of the Night Elves.
The Felbloods are only in the same league as the Felborne Shal’dorei and neither are in the leagues of damage that was caused, by the first Satyr - who are all former Night Elf Mages and some even taking the satyr corruption and being former Night Elf Druids.
And these three groups all walked different paths from Blood Elves, Nightborne and some of the Night Elves.
That applies to all the races now since all can be Warlocks and wield fel magic. It’s complete racism to just point to one race, when others are far worse.
Kanrethad - a Human Warlock, we know he is fully corrupted.
Highmountain Tauren are corrupted through the Feltotem
Night Elves are the worst of the worst and the Shen’dralar have not weened off Fel Magic, since the main Night Elf Warlock in Bel’ameth was also seen talking to an Orc Warlock.
Draenei and Eredar are extremely dangerous and evil.
Considering we have High Elf Warlocks and Felcasters in the lore, this isn’t accurate. All races are tainted
Technically that is the Azshara faction. The Stormrage Brothers and Tyrande faction walked a different path. They continue to walk it. They will recover from the Horde genocide and be stronger than before.
Incorrect. The Felblood Elves are part of Kaelthas Sunstriders legacy. Even though some Blood Elves rebelled against him. All Blood Elves most likely carry Felblood DNA.
Night Elves as a people walked the path of Druidism and their goddess Elune. Such was the lesson of Magic more specifically how bad their Mages messed up.
In regards to the Lore. The All races can be Warlocks never made sense. Yet Blizzard still tries to square that circle. It does not work with Draenai and Lightforged Draenai.
Many was effected by the Fel and Warlocks. But the Manarai are uniquely different to the Draenai. They are no longer the same people.
Manarai and the Broken are not Draenai.
The Felblood are all one people.
Kanrethad never corrupted the human dna and gene pool.
Many Blood Totems that lived on Highmountain died when they drank the demon blood. So it stands to reason that there are viable population of Blood Totem that ended up making an appearance in Dragonflight.
What is your source for High Elf Warlocks?
As a people the High Elf embraced nature. The (fel)Blood revelled in the Fel.
Reported. Feel yourself welcomed in some well deserved timeout.
Fel magic is actually cool. Unlike the Void. Also the blood elves did everything they could manage to rebuild their nation while high elves being on a high horse judging everyone with their so called purity. They lose both in morality and actions since having the wrong faction colors was enough for them to trigger a massacre.
Literally nothing you say makes sense.
The blood elves defendes themselves. Jaina targeted everyone that looked like Horde. She is the actual bad guy.
Yes because on top of being a racist she is also a coward.
Jaina was the actual leader of Dalaran back then. Your logic keeps being stupid.
I am actually for once on a higher morality after you outed yourself as N.azi.
Incorrect. The Felblood Elves are only part of Kael’s legacy and they attacked the Blood Elves of Silvermoon from the Blood Knight HQ.
No Felblood was ever forced upon the Silvermoon Blood Elves. To state otherwise is a total and utter lie, most likely from a very racist stand point against the Silvermoon folk.
All Night Elves are at fault and should always feel guilty about what they allowed to happen.
Everything is still the fault of the Night Elves
Well we have the High Elf Warlock of the Silver Covenant, Summoner Nolric.
We have Magus Solgaze who used fel magic to open the portal to Nishkara - she also states that she felt fel magic eat at Vereesa’s soul.
Then we obviously have the various Burning Legion Warlock cults around Kalimdor and Southern Easter Kingdoms, where High Elf membership was noticeable.
Then we also have those Alliance High Elf junkies who became Fel Wretched later on, in the Eastern Plaguelands.
High Elves are as untainted as the Nightborne, which doesn’t say alot and they are as hopelessly addicted to the lure of power, like the Shen’dralar and the Highborne…
They are all from the same kin. It’s all over the lore - it’s only the exiled Draenei where some didn’t initially take up using fel magic.
The Sargerai on AU Draenor are still Eredar / Draenei Warlocks.
The same about the Aldor Draenei, where they members later used fel magic and turned against Ishanah.
My point is and always will be right. You can’t point fingers at the Blood Elves being corrupt, without first looking at all the other races. Night Elves, Draenei and the alliance in general, are far more dangerously corrupted by Fel and Void than the Horde is, right now, despite the skin colour of Orcs and the eye colour of Blood Elves, which is pretty meaningless, considering we only see Orcs play a main role as Shamans and Warriors, whilst Blood Elves take up a primarily Mage and Paladin role.
If we truly want to attack Horde races, players and then Horde Warlocks, then…you can, but your an idiot, considering that the Forsaken seem to take the “Warlock” role and they show no signs of Fel corruption.
False flag reports are probably Terms of Service violations.
Blood Elves were still having babies. Even when followed Illidan Stormrage and Kaelthas Sunstrider.
This does not change the fact that both walked very different paths. Dirty tainted FelBlood. The High Elves does not have this. When the Orcs drank the blood of Mannaroth they felt the demons blood burning in their very veins.
To repeat. Blood Elf babies were born magic junkies. Generations of blood elves lived that way. Velen purifying the Sunwell gave opportunity for new generations of Blood Elves to rise. But still born magic junkies. They simply had the Sunwell returned to them as a people.
Does not change the fact that Felblood DNA is now pumped through the veins of all that followed Illidan Stormrage Kaelthas Sunstrider and their descendants.
That makes no sense. It was not a racial issue. It was a Horde issue.
Jaina Proudmoore has always been a Kul Tiran.
Kul Tiras left the Alliance after Jaina sold her father to the Horde for the price of Peace. A costly lesson when the same Horde blew up Theramore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ToEvz-7trY
odd to go around calling people 1943 German ruling party members.
The actual members from that time are probably in their late 80s if any are still alive at all.
Blood Elves as a people turn their backs on just about everything. So yes. There was a schism between the Kaelthas faction. But at some point they all stood united. All indulged in the Fel. Illidan Stormrage in the absence of their Sunwell offered them another source of power. The Fel.
A conflict against the Kaelthas Sunstrider caction does not undo the Felblood DNA in their blood. Even if they do not have Felblood in appearance they still carry Felblood DNA.
Many Night Elves rejected Azshara. Even the drowned dead on the Broken Isles during Legion invasion.
You are incorrect.
To explain. THe High Elves as a people embraced nature. Just as humans as a people embraced the Light. Night Elves as a people embraced Elune and Druidism. So the fact that some indulged in the Fel will not mean that there was enough doing so to corrupt the race.
Blizzard can not have essentially two Wood Elf like races. But it still does not change that the High Elves are nothing like the tainted Felblood Elves.
My point. Viable populations uncorrupted by the Fel exists for everybody else Except the Blood Elves. Like it or not Felblood is in their DNA.
Nightborne have been changed by their Sunwell. The Fel was forced upon them yes. But from withered many developed resistance to the Fel. Others were not corrupted by the Fel. So there is a viable Nightborne population uncorrupted by the Fel.
They were once the same kin. But the Broken became something else entirely body and soul. As did the Manari. ONLY the Draenai retain what they once was before Sargeras introduced himself to their people.
Literally everyone else was forever changed.
In time Draenai Warlocks will become Manari. But they will no longer be Draenai. Not in body or soul.
You are incorrect again. While the Fel does indeed corrupt everything. One should not ignore the fact that All Elves in the World of Warcraft are magical creatures. From the Dark Trolls the Night Elves were simply the template. Nightborne - High Elf - Tainted Felblood Elves - Saytr etc… are all without exception off shoots of the Night Elves.
So Fel magic will effect Elvish species differently.
The Fel does in fact effect the dead. Do not forget that the Forsaken are Scourge. Once the former Horde Warchief the Original Nerzhul. They became bored of tearing his soul apart. The curse of Undeath is a product of the Legion.
So yes. Everything about the Forsaken screams Fel Corruption. As Scourge are by design meant to weaken Azeroth for the Burning Legion invasion.
Think it was Khiljadden himself that toyed with Nerzhul then sent him to Azeroth as the Helm of domination.
Fel Orcs exist, The red skins. Felblood Elves also exist. Even Fel Murlocks existed.
They embraced pretty much nothing…other than leaving QT.
A small group stopped using magic.
Another group continued using magic, arcane, light and fel alike
Another group were corrupted by a magical relic which turned them into Fel Wretched,
Incorrect.
Sargarai prove your wrong on this.
Just literally looked up Imp-Master Valessa who is listed as a Draenei Warlock.
“Draenei” literally just means “exiled Eredar.” It’s not a new race…it’s the same race, just exiled from Argus…all were called “Eredar.”
Fel Magic had far more influence in Night Elf sectors than it ever was for Blood Elves. Your wrong and racist to just point fingers at one race, which I think your doing because they are Horde.
It’s a classic stupid case of “A race I like is on the faction I don’t like.” Only idiots think like that.
Man’ari Exist.
Notice how you again, only list Horde races…I think your just racist
Your just racist and have no point.
The Draenei are now, just as “tainted” as the Blood Elves, with the Man’ari joining their ranks and Draenei Warlocks being playable.
I’d suggest you take the time to actually learn the differences between how the Fel Crystals in Quel’Thalas worked and how Fel Blood actually works
Fel Crystals ARE NOT THE SAME AS DIRECT Felblood. You are wrong as always and it’s just slander and racism against the Blood Elves. They are not Fel infused with their DNA. They are no more corrupt than the Shen’dralar and their children who, by your stupid standards, would also be fully fel and void corrupted and still be corrupted because they didn’t ween off Fel Magic as they claimed.
In order to be “fel-blood” corrupted, you actually need to consume or be bathed in felblood in order to be corrupted by felblood otherwise, your not corrupted by “felblood.”
Sin’dorei and Shen’dralar are literally just the same in this respect, only the Shen’dralar siphoned Fel Magic from 1 large demon, corrupting and twisting the minds of the Highborne within, whilst the Sin’dorei used fel crystals to make Silvermoon stand, once again.
Fel Crystal use is not even on the same level of danger or corruption as Immol’thar use.
You are calling people 1943 German party members. But pretend to be the reasonable person.
Are they no Asylums on Silvermoon?
But yet High Elves share the Bronzebeard and Wildhammers love of nature. Coexisting among those Dwarven clans.
The Fel Wretched are Blood Elves. Not High Elves.
There are many Fel Wretched that are seen among the dungeons and such when Kaelthas Sunstrider is killed.
This time a google search won’t save you.
You saw the transformation of the Draenai that became Socrethar. Turning into Manari just like all the rest. Others followed him in the path. Fel Corruption does happen to Draenai and turns them into Manari.
It is quite literally what the Lightforged Draenai waged war against. During their 1000 year war. The transformation from Draenai to Manari does take time. Including their soul going to the twisting nether but the change can not be undone.
Only the Draenai that are not corrupted by the Fel remain.
Transformation to Manari is the ultimate fate of Draenai that area corrupted by the Fel. Kiljhadden used Velen’s own son against Velen. A last straw.
One (fel)Blood Elf calls others 1943 German ruling party members. Another calls people racists.
The Lore is what the Lore is. The Fel effects the living and the dead. Saytr is one off shoot of the Night Elves. The Naga that followed Queen Azshara is another off shoot of the Night ELves. But the Night Elves as a people still have a viable population not corrupted by the Fel. (Fel)Blood Elves forever carry felblood DNA.
You and Erevien seems like two peas in a pod. Manari are those that followed Archimonde and Kiljhdadden. Those that followed Velen and the Naaru are Draenai. Lightforged Draenai being an off shoot that rejected the Fel and Sargeras.
Ad hominem is an admission of defeat. No matter how much you do so it will not disprove the other person.
Those “Draenai” that become Warlocks will inevitably become Manari just like their Kin that chose to follow Sargeras.
There is literally a player customization for a full Manarai appearance for their “Draenai”.
It is what happened in the lore and the WoW universe. Had the Blood Elves not followed Illidan Stormrage and gorged themselves on the Fel. They would never have become Felblood Elves.
Facts don’t care about you’re feelings. Felblood.
@Kaiine: All you do is go around calling people racists. It seems taht you are unable to engage or prove Moltensage wrong. Admitting defeat.
The Moltensage anti-fans can gather all they like. but it does not change things.
Felblood Elves are part of the Lore and part of the game. Felblood Elves never stopped having children. So while their descendants do not have the apperances of their ancestors they still carry felblood dna.
The High Elves do not.
Lie to yourselves all you want. But besides Blizzard retconning this to no longer be true. This is just the (fel)Blood Elves as a people.
Learn2Lore about Fel in general because your a stupid idiot and a racist.
No.
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Wretched#Cataclysm
The high elves of the [Quel'Lithien Lodge] have become Wretched, revealing that both high and blood elves can become Wretched. https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Wretched_Woodsman
Irrelevant to Quel’Thalas.
Learn the difference between Fel Crystal use and how Felblood actually works.
guess what - to be Felblood corrupted, you actually need inhale it or bathe in it. Guess what…no Silvermoon Blood Elf did so…
Your just pointing out wrong points because your a racist.
By “trolling” you mean defeating your nonsensical claims.
Such as explaining to Erevien that the Zandalari Trolls during Rhastakhan’s reign was not part of the Horde. They only joined the Horde during Talanjo’s reign.
So your revenge quest against the Alliance has nothing to do with the Horde. Since the Zandalari Trolls were once their own independent sovereign kingdom.
Anyone who doesn’t know the basic difference between Fel Crystals and Felblood is a fool.
It’s basic lore and if you can’t manage it, then your the problem.
racist this racist that racist racist racist.
Do you actually have anything of value to say?
Come to WoW forums to call others racists.
Erevien come to WoW forums to call others 1943 Germans ruling party members.
It’s a poor attempt at bullying and dog piling. Moderators will probably overlook this.
High Elves did not make the choices that Blood Elves made. So yes. They are uncorrupted of the original batch that once all called themselves High Elves.
In Erevien’s world it is “normal” to call people 1943 German ruling party members.
You are well known for ignoring the lore. Talanji is who made the Zandalari Trolls members of the Horde.
This had to be explained to you multiple times.
But yes. Continue to ad hominems - insults - bullying and dogpiling. Very “sane” forum users.
Learn2Lore - you can’t seem to do it so your argument is just defeated. You’ve lost. Concession accepted.
You can’t seem to know basic stuff like Fel Crystals and Felblood and it’s laughable because to be a “Felblood” of anything, you actually need to inhale and/or bathe in it…as Blizzard have stated in their lore.
Just another bully that only has insults and ad hominems to offer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFo_KmabdCc
Felblood Elves are the ancestors of the current (fel)Blood Elves. They don’t share their appearance but still carry their DNA.
Were around since Garithos and Warcraft. Still around with Burning Crusade.
It’s Unknown how many survived Kaelthas defeat.
But racist racist racist is the only retort you seem to have.
Once they became Felblood Elves. It did not remove their ability to procreate. Despite their losses (Fel)Blood Elves have maintained their population. Thus passing on through DNA what they became. (Fel)Blood Elves are BORN as magic junkies.
In the absence of the Sunwell the Fel was offered as an alternative to magic. To think you would accuse High Elves of Fel Wretched when that is a path that Blood Elves chose.
There should be a difference shown should the High Elves join the Alliance. The untainted and uncorrupted High Elves.