Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race (Part 1)

Whoah whoah whoah…

1 Sunreaver aided Garrosh. We even know his name, Thaelen Songweaver. He’s ya boy who made the Mana Bomb. It is never explained what power Garrosh had over him, but Thaelen does seem to have been a hopeless lush, absolutely decadent, from how he is described. So that happened.

That is not however why the Purge happened, or else it would have occurred at that time, which it did not. What did in fact happen, was after Rhonin’s death, (Where they were not acting in a neutral capacity at all, but were aiding the Alliance against the Horde) Aethas Sunreaver could quite easily have abstained, or opposed Jaina becoming head of the Council of Six, his vote was the casting vote. He voted -for- Jaina.

So fast forwards to the Divine Bell issue (Which -was- the cause of the Purge) Again, it is our old friend Thaelen Songweaver, He did this without Aethas Sunreaver’s Knowledge. He also did not go around every Sunreaver civilian in Dalaran and tell them. Aethas -did- discover what Songweaver had done. After he had done it. He weighed up who he was more afraid of, Garrosh, or Jaina, and made the rookie error of fearing Garrosh more. So he stayed quiet about it.
So at this point, two Sunreavers knew what had happened. The One who did it, and the one who found out afterwards. Songweaver legged it, because by now it is quite apparent that he is more loyal to Garrosh than to the Sunreavers and the Blood Elves.

This is the fun bit. Jaina is annoyed that Dalaran neutrality has been violated (She conveniently forgot the bit where she had asked for Dalaran to violate it’s neutrality to aid the Alliance) Now, she has a police force. The Dalaran Peacekeepers.
if you wanted to bloodlessly arrest a lot of people, who you have no proof are guilty of anything yet, which would you send?

The Police? Who have a power of arrest?
or
A Sectarian group known to hate the people you want arresting with a passion, who have no actual legal power of arrest? (No Jaina cannot grant them that power, that would be a Council decision, and she does not convene the Council)

So Vereesa and her thugs are set loose. Vereesa is far from a bystander. Good grief, I have done the quests on Alliance characters, I know exactly what she orders the player to do, and it ain’t legal. So you kill a guy trying to get his own money out of the bank to escape the bloodbath, you kill a woman who is in her own shop where she has lived her whole life, just because she goes “No, you can’t arrest me, this is my home” and you see plenty of Silver Covenant stabbing the hell out of unarmed civilian Sunreavers, killing them, now I wasn’t aware being unarmed and cowering, not even swinging a punch classes as ‘Resisting arrest’.

There’s a freakin’ Silver Covenant Mage dangling a Sunreaver over the Segacedi Shark in the sewers (It is actually impossible to rescue that NPC) How much more villainous do you need? Tying people to the tracks of the Deeprun Tram?.

Meanwhile Jaina is walking around Dalaran, and can see the murder spree, and she doesn’t stop it. She set Vereesa loose, and Vereesa set the Killsquads loose.
Whether by -our- world’s laws, or by the Laws that Garrosh was tried under, both Jaina and Vereesa are guilty of War Crimes.

Fun fact, the Silver Covenant managed to punish 0% of the people responsible for the theft of the Divine Bell, whereas 100% of the people they killed, were completely unaware and innocent.

Which is good writing. It showed the Alliance having some proper ‘teeth’ for once, and that, yes, they can be Evil too. Which is great, because you want that, otherwise it just becomes a repetitive morality tale.

But you point this out and some people are “Nope, Alliance were justified, they did nothing wrong!” “Uhh, War Crimes dude? By whichever legal code you go” “No, Alliance does not commit War Crimes!” “Umm, they kinda did, which is cool, for a story point of view?” “No, Horde Bias!”

There’s no talking to those sorts.

Yeah but…without being funny…‘So what?’ That is just the dude saying he prefers writing Horde story and lore, yet ignoring the fact that he prefers -Playing- Alliance. Which makes sense. You can totally prefer writing for one thing, or acting as one thing, whilst actually preferring to do the other thing.

Writers do that. Everybody loves a good villain, and they love them to have a reason rather than Saturday morning kids Cartoon badguys like Skeletor. You can really dig a good, grounded bad guy faction, without wanting to play it.

After all, Metzen did. He liked writing Horde, but he preferred playing Alliance.

Don’t be so emotive, they did not spit in your faces. They just didn’t give you them. Same as they did not give Horde Ogres, despite both having been NPC races in their respective factions for just as long as each other.

So far apart from correcting some noodleheads who butcher lore in their rants, my input has been suggesting a starting zone for High Elves, what their starting quest experience could be like, what other racial characters could be leaders for them (Sure, there is Vereesa, but she is just the head of the Silver Cov, you’ve also got Priestess Aurora, Renthar Hawkspear, Auric Sunchaser) what customisations would make sense, what mounts would be cool for them, and even what racials would add a unique High Elf flavour.

I think that is slightly more of a contribution than some who just go “Silver Covenant! Silver Covenant!” like some demented mantra.

Right, so a second Thalassian race of Elves to represent the 10% of the species left alive, whilst the 90% get one. Totally makes sense. sure…

Shh, Adults talking, not sexists.

Blood elf.

Right…i hope you wont pass out when blizz announce playable silver covenant highelves

What difference does it make? Literally none.

I imagine I will be able to contain myself, as I say, -I- actually came up with good ideas as to how to make High Elves a viable race on Alliance. One Group of which (but by no means all) are the Silver Covenant. See I am able to recognise the fact that the Silver Covenant are just -one- group of High Elves siding with the Alliance, as anyone who cared about Elven lore could tell you.

A lot of, obvious one - alliance faction vs horde one.

No, you think that what you have suggested is “good” ideas- well , NOT.

Highelves such as silver covenant highelves, as they are. Or we will end up asking 4th high elven race again.

What was bad about them? You clearly have read them, yes? So what was bad about them?

Oh, so…you…don’t want High Elves then? I think you may actually be trolling by now. As they are in game? Seriously? As they are in game right now? Just give a yes or no…Because your answer could be very interesting…given how they are in in game…

numbers do not matter. void elves are a total of 10. yet in game they are…EVERYWHERE… hmm…must be their void magic imbued their reproduction skills

Stop assuming what i want, its clearly what i want, read first post.

I can enlighten once more- highelves such as silver covenant highelves playable for alliance.

Honestly Moontear can’t you just create a Natural skinned Velf, with blue eyes. And get the Silver covenant tabard?

I know grinding for that Tabard (or grinding to be exalted) is a pain… I know. But once you get the tabard and wear it, technically you would be a Silver covenant Elf.

No because in the end of the day you are void elf.

Why cant we have playable highelves such as silver covenant highelves?

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Because they are not playable. You just have to choose one of the 99% which are playable.

Anything possible in the future.

I also have blood.elves and taurens but …i cant stand horde anymore.

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A big, fat :sparkles: NO :sparkles: you already got enough with having blood elf skin stones on your void elves, not to mention that void elves came out of the blue due to the constant crying for high elves on the alliance side.

But since you got void elves, how about we get night elf undead for horde? Or undead humans like Nathanos and Calia? Or just blizzard letting us make dark rangers? Or idk, more actual customizations for nightbornes??

Void elves literally got more customization options than nightborne, and you continue to ask for more.

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High elf skin tone from highelves such as silver covenant highelves. No blood elves involved.

The new fad anyway is to be a void elf, with deep purple/blueish skin and play as a Nightborne :woozy_face:
Tho I never understood, why not play as a Night Elf and play as a Nightborne (at leas tthe same species), but finding logic in WoW palyers are between the hard and borderline impossible :roll_eyes:

Why can’t they just play Nightborne? Well okay I get that certain players might not like Orgrimmar but there are more places in the world than that place.

Well, the RPers I’ve met so far as an “alliance Shal’dorei” (kinda rightfully) belived the Nightborne should honor what Thalyrssa said about, how wrong would it be to become conquerors and agressors, and tried to honor the help the Alliance provided during the Suramar compagain, visit the libraries of Ironforge and Stormwind and there was that Astromancer who was fascinated by the Draenei extraterestrial origin and advanced tehcno-magical “sci-fi” technology and arcane potential
Some even tried to reach out to their Kaldorei cousins and were interested to meet those “Highborne mages” and after the Arcan’dor showed there is a possibility to merge Nature and Arcane with a benefical results (and the whole Moonguards and Valewalker Farodin who are kinda allies) and study the Night Elf druidism…
Can’t blame them tho
Just was a bit strange why not Night elf then - they said, its a model, the Void Elf model is closer to the original arrogant and smug faced Nightborne npcs than the Night elven model

Weird but interesting. Hmm :face_with_monocle:

Getting more customization than other races does not stop anyone from asking more. In terms of hair colors, we got nothing new. So we can still ask if we wanted to.

In terms of the “Void” aspect, they got nothing new either.

It doesn’t have to be either/or. Obviously I support Nightborne getting the customization they deserve first, but I also support new hair colors for Velves and you can’t tell us not to ask for new stuff. You don’t own the game.

ok you can have those elves, but then we want venthyr abandon the alliance after this shadowlands thing and bring them to the horde