Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race (Part 1)

Checks list “Well…isn’t that the darnedest thing, there is no race called Silver Covenant, I mean, we have High Elves here, but…nope, no such thing as a Silver Covenant Race…” :stuck_out_tongue:

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we want Silver Covenant Highelves.

Not High Elves then?

Brigante, I was thinking at least you will understand that I am making fun.

I dont want anything except Nightborne stuff.

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Once upon time there was a genie who lived in a cave. He was stuck in the cave until he granted three wishes. So he decided he would grant the first three people who find him a wish, so he could be free.

One day a young boy walks in and the genie says “I can grant you anything you can imagine, beyond your wildest dreams. Think carefully now, because it may be anything you want.” The boy stratches his head and thinks and replies “I want a robot sports car that flies, runs on laughter and has a magical drawer within it that generates endless sweets!” The genie laughs and says “Surely impossible, but not for me! I applaud you imagination!” and he grants the boy the car and off he flies.

The next day a girl comes by and the genie repeats his speech from yesterday. The girl scratches her head and thinks. “I wish for world peace around the globe, that will last indefinitely, and for the production of all weapons to immediately cease forever, no matter what it takes”. The genie chuckles “Such high aspirations! Good! I shall do it!” and he waves his hands and all the weapons in the world disappear and people are magically compelled to never believe them necessary again, peace is granted.

The next day a High Elf fan comes in the cave. The genie repeats his request for the last time. The High Elf fan thinks for a bit and says “I would like an exact copy of the shoes my friend has, but I would like the laces to be blue and not red”. The genie is befuddled. “You can have anything you wish and this is your wish? Can you not wear such shoes now and accomplish this otherwise?” The high elf fan shakes his head “No, my laces are not blue, they are a kind of purplish blue, and I cannot entertain the idea they are not the right kind of blue, so I would like these shoes.” The Genie doesn’t know what to do “Maybe you can paint the laces you have this blue colour you desire?”. The High Elf fan gets cross “NO, I would know they’re not really blue, look, you said you can do anything, so do it!”

The Genie is baffled by the sheer lack of imagination by the person, all of the cosmos’ power at their disposal yet they wish for a pair of trainers that look ever so slightly different to their friend’s yet that is their wish. The Genie grants the wish. The fan leaves.

The Genie finds they cannot leave the cave. They consult their book again and it seems they are free when they give into the world “three wishes’ worth of cosmic power” back. The request of the Helf fan was simply not enough, for it twas a most trivial thing and required hardly any power at all.

The Genie waits and wait, but with the Helf fan now satisfied and the world at peace, nobody experiences strife anymore nor discomfort so they don’t go looking for the genie cave or promises of wishes. They say he remains there today, locked in his cave. After time the cave entrance sealed and weathered and the genie became trapped.
Many many years later, the world experienced another problem, overpopulation. Nobody was dying in wars so food was in short supply. People remembered the genie cave and went there to ask for a wish for eternal food and land, and yet he was nowhere to be found.

The moral of the story is if you come across a situation where you have the option to ask for something truly extraordinary and far beyond what you have access to, maybe you should take it because you never know when the opportunity might come up again and whether other people might benefit from that opportunity as well.

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there were silver covenant in theramore, so ?

more then one and Aethas knew about it.

silver covenant

they dont look like “desired” race, desired race still not playable YET

they should get whole Suramar as main capital

Thanks. It’s based on Thori’dal, but my fanon hypothesis is that the high elves used to have a crest, by which Thori’dal was inspired (yet simplified) similar to how the Golden Bow of Quel’Thalas seems to be inspired by the Icon of Blood, as seen here:

The Alliance have been vicious hypocrites at least since the orc internment camps, if you ask me.

Why do you bother, Brig? You’re torturing yourself by trying to squeeze any kind of sense out of this one.

Don’t worry, I knew you weren’t being serious, I was also being facetious in giving my stock reply…:stuck_out_tongue:

For a moment I thought that was going to be the “Orange for a head” joke, but instead was something of tragic pathos and a strong metaphorical meaning, bravo sir/madme, bravo.

And? The Purge was nothing to do with Theramore. How were the Armed Silver Covenant murdering civilians in Dalaran defending the people of Theramore? Do you mean taking revenge for? That might work better as a phrasing, but you can’t defend or protect people who died months and months ago…

Actually I just looked it all up, I always thought it was a couple of them, but apparently it really was just one, his name is Fanlyr Silverthorn, and he seems to have always been a bad apple, as he tagged along with the Blood Elven expeditions in Pandaria, worming himself into them whilst already spying -on- his own people for Garrosh. Only later did he learn of the Divine Bell and straight away told Papa Garrosh, rather than his own people, the Leader of which was -in- Pandaria at the time!

Sounds like Treachery was Fanlyr Silverthorn’s middle name. But yeah he betrayed the Blood Elves, and he betrayed the Kirin Tor as well.

Aethas found out about the Divine Bell afterwards, he did not know in advance. This is clearly stated, and you can check for yourself on WoWpedia by looking up Aethas Sunreaver. Aethas -did- keep this information from Jaina however, out of fear of Garrosh’s threat of retribution to the Blood Elves if he told her.

Biggest tragedy is, the guy confirmed as the only Elf to have stolen the Divine Bell it turns out probably wasn’t even an -actual- Sunreaver! He is never referred to as a Sunreaver in game, and doesn’t have that tag. He is referred to only as ‘An Agent’ and works with the Reliquary nicking stuff for Garrosh. Also when he refers to the Sunreavers in text, he says “They” not “We”, meaning he isn’t actually one himself.

That makes it all even worse of course… You should always be careful, If you hadn’t spurred me on to look up the whole Divine Bell theft I wouldn’t have noticed all that. Jaina and the Silver Covenant are even -worse- in their War Crimes now, as the murdered and tortured civilians who a) were innocent of any wrongdoing, and b) Who didn’t even belong to an organisation that was guilty of it!

You realise how bizarre that sounds as a reply? You say “Yes they are, such as Silve Covenant faction,” I say “The Silver Covenant who are one group of the High Elves” You say “Silver Covenant”
I wasn’t asking a question like a pub quiz "Ladies and Gentlemen, Question four ‘Who are one group of High Elves?’ “SIlver Covenant!” “Correct! The Silver Covenant are indeed one of several groups of High Elves”

It was a statement.

Err. Yes they do. Have you not seen Jakafo’s character? It is identical to a High Elf. I mean literally identical. Especially in the characters Silver Covenant tabard and armour. Thats a High Elf. It doesn’t matter what race it says on log in screen (As Blizz confirmed, when you’re playing a Dwarf, if you choose all the Wildhammer options, then you’re a Wildhammer, not a Bronzebeard, and to be fair, once you have the starting zone out of the way, there would be absolutely no difference anyway apart from what your character looks like.

Void Elves can 100% look like High Elves.

So you have a race that can look identical to the desired race, and can be used to play the desired race, but you also want to use up an Allied race slot to get something identical as an Allied race? (An Allied race you can’t even bring yourself to ask for, by the way) DO you not think a lot of Alliance fans are going to get -really- annoyed at what could reasonably be seen as a wasted Race option?

I mean as long as they get annoyed at the High Elf fans over it and don’t come running screeching about ‘Horde Bias’ then, well, y’know, on your head be it.

The Nightborne? Yeah, that would be cool, cool but I wouldn’t find it fair on the Alliance. I’d feel short changed. (Remember I do play both Factions, so like to see fairness in the game).

Because you make a reasonable point, I’ll answer it in a non-sarcastic way to explain why I think that would be unreasonable for Horde to get the whole of Suramar.
To start with, Lorewise you are 100% correct. All of Suramar is now a Horde city under the leadership of Thalyssra, we plainly see this in the recent short story about Lor’themar and Thalyssra, set in Suramar. I completely agree with you there, no question. If you look at the Allied Races however, it is a bit less clear cut.

The Allied races on each side have a direct counterpart on the other. Dark Iron Dwarves are the direct counterpart of Mag’har Orcs (Same race, different skin colour and options) the Highmountain Tauren are a direct counterpart of the Lightforged Draenei (Same race, but slightly different) Kul’Tirans are the counterpart of the Zandalari Trolls. (Both an existing race, but with different models to the Core race of Humans and Darkspear). Both KT and ZT get their own city, which is all fair and good. Vulpera and Mechagnomes are trickier, but not if you look at it properly. They’re both -very- similar to an existing race on their factions, but with different Outlooks. Mechagnomes embrace their mechanical origins, whereas Gnomes reject it, and are -happy- with the Curse of Flesh. Goblins are vicious, survivor types who are big into their trade and haggling. Vulpera are the same, just without the actual greed as a racial trait.

So that leaves us with Nightborne and Void Elves. In both cases the similarities are there. They are a race that traditionally belonged to the other Faction, who for whatever reason, have joined the other faction. Both Elves, and both with models -similar- but not exactly the same, as the Core Race on the other Faction.
So far everything is evenly balanced between the Factions.

However, The Void Elves only get Telogrus Rift, which is a tiny little zone with very little going on there. It would be unfair to the Alliance, if the Nightborne therefore got the whole of Suramar city (Especially given how gorgeous a city it is). That would be a big old slap to Alliance players. Especially as for it to get the full overhaul and put the assets of a racial city in there, Suramar would have vendors, barbers, Profession trainers, so a lot of extra work that I can’t see them putting into Telogrus rift.

As such, they get a tiny instanced zone, which is about the size of Telogrus, which looks like a pleasant Suramar garden.

Lorewise I completely agree with you, Suramar by now is owned by the Nightborne and is a Horde city. Gameplay wise however, it would be a massive kick to the Alliance if the Horde suddenly got an extra city and the Alliance didn’t.

Does that make sense?

Everything? Horde caused this, now faced consequences.

Since you are horde you have no credit to talk about war crimes,.

i did, and they are far from what highelves look.

they look like void elves or close to blood elves not like highelves.

even if they look like they dont behive like high elves or think like high evles so they never be like tru high elves and they alweys be fake …

Do you read anything anyone else ever posts or just keep typing “High Elves, such as Silver Covenant!”

Your reply makes no sense.

Pretty sure I am not Horde. I’d probably go with ‘Geordie’-‘Englishman’-‘Celt’-‘European’ as my allegiances go.

Because I’m not actually a Blood Elf you see. I’m Human. Weird I know, but some people play both factions so have a real life identity not a game one…

Also, actually, yes you do get to talk about War Crimes whichever side you are on, as our real world shows. This is why My Lai was a thing during Vietnam, this is why British troops were tried for War Crimes (and found innocent) during a War they had won.

War Crimes are War Crimes, simple as that… Doesn’t matter who carries them out.

In what way? I’m curious, because, that is what a High Elf looks like…in what different way do you think a High Elf looks, than someone who looks identical to a High Elf, in a Silver Covenant tabard and High Elf armour?

What differences would you see, to make someone -Not- look like Silver Covenant, in order to make them look more -like- Silver Covenant?

That is simply factually incorrect, and can be dismissed as such.

blood elf, horde faction.

name tag, racial, customization

Wait a minute…wait a minute…

Are you trying to use -My- words, to correct your post?

That is…pretty bizarre.

Also, to clarify.

I’m not a Blood Elf. I am not a member of the Horde. I am a human being who plays a variety of characters in this game, one of whom I use to post from, that character is a Blood Elf in the Horde.

You do know the difference, right?

Literally does not matter, and that is a roleplayer saying that. Blizzard happen to agree as they stated recently.

And what racial should High Elves get then?

Oh-hoh! So what -Extra- customisation do you want for High Elves then…I suspect this will be gold dust…

yes you are blood elf, and you represent your faction/race by posting on that avatar

it does not matter for you. Correct. for me it’s most important thing

I…I don’t know how to explain this in simpler words. You know Blood Elves aren’t real, don’t you?

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I’m representing humans ingame and irl and can just say that the alliance sucks. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

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Blood elves are real, but shouldn’t be, they should all be high elves such as Silver Covenant. You should be high elf such as Silver covenant too. Horde is bad and evil.

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This is lies. Humans aren’t real!!!

Apart from Silver Covenant Faction Humans…

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*Humans such as Silver Covenant. Those are the only humans that matter.

dear diary,

You ask me in GAME forums talk about not game but real world? :smiley:

yes they are real.