Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race (Part 1)

And why they left the alliance.

True, at the time of BC.

Yeah that will probably be Alleria’s goal. But I don’t think as well that Silvermoon will ever become Alliance even if the dialog is there. But she might make some blood elves question their loyalty to the horde.

I quess we will see, it will most likely change the Alliance under Tyralyon rule.

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I’m aware but high elves aren’t druids. They aren’t shamans. They aren’t demon hunters. And they aren’t paladins.

People talk as if being a paladin is par for the course.
But realistically they aren’t all that present as a class for high elves.

Why would they protest against Lor’themar when he wasn’t the one who chose to leave the Alliance? And why would he have chosen to join the Alliance when dwarves and Night Elves had planted spies around Silvermoon instead of sending help?

They never wanted to be part of the Alliance, period. Anasterian agreed to join the Alliance of Lordaeron reluctantly because he was indebted to the humans, not because he wanted to be chummy with them. High Elves being at odds with humans is a classic stance in many (if not all) heroic fantasy saga, Warcraft initially followed that unspoken rule.

Oh,

Definitely when i did read that i thought OH YES HE ACTUALLY meant he want more customization for void elves as “solution”, not to close topic. :smiley:

If Night Elves had been a separate faction of their own instead of joining the Alliance then I could’ve seen the Blood Elves going to them instead of the horde after the Alliance’s betrayal.

I see your antlers burning. :smiley:

High Elves are paladins, definitely. There were High Elves in The Silver Hand, which was formed before the second war. It’s just that they are/were more rare than Humans and Dwarves.

Mehlar Dawnblade is one NPC who comes to mind when speaking of High Elf paladins. He was a pupil under Uther. Now he is a Blood Elf.

You also had the High Elven Royal Guard back in the days. This was the progenitor order of the Blood Knight order, and it had paladins in it.

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Because this topic, about wanting playable Helves when you basically already got them, is illogical. Now it makes more sense to ask for labels, further customizations, and for them to make more classes available. If they do those 3 things, you have High Elves fairly fleshed out.

You’re also just ignoring a myriad of others things I wrote following that statement. Again, are you able to let go of it and stick to the actual topic? At this point, you are carrying a grudge towards me for something I said and are stuck solely on speaking around that. Move on.

But they weren’t just paladins
So being members doesn’t mean much
They had mages, which high elves being a magical race fits perfectly as

This is the one example that always comes up tbf
I’m not saying they don’t exist
Just that they’re not a big part of the race. They’re a tiny fraction

That also goes for Undead priests. We only have one example as far I am aware, which is Alonsus. And yet, based on that, people will argue that Undead priests are completely normal.

Surely, the NUMBER of paladins of a race shouldn’t determine whether that class ought to be playable by said race? We have sources which confirms that they exist, which is the case for Night Elf paladins as well. There are at least 3 Nelf paladins that were added to the lore in Legion.

We were also given Void Elves as a playable race initially instead of High Elves, despite the fact that High Elves have a greater population than this small cult which broke away from the Blood Elves.

I don’t think arguing against a race+class combo using the excuse that they are scarcely represented works any more.

No, we do not “basically” have them. We do not have them, that’s why this topic still alive since legion expansion. Void elves are not high elves and never will be, that’s just a fact.

Grudge? For what exactly? I just reflect your emotions…so maybe look inside yourself Lightforged Draenei.

My point was that you play LG draenei over draenei, yet you said this topic should be closed because according to you we got “identical” high elves as void elves. which is false.

And yet again, you’re arguing using highly fallacious logic. You’re like a brick wall, man. If you are an adult, at least try and act like it instead of pushing this petty quabbling.

Have a good one xD

Holy priests yes
Shadow priests not at all
Theyre totally normal

I didnt say that
However I do firmly believe that lacking a class that barely is part of the race is not a big issue.
If they could not be a hunter or a mage then that’s a big deal.
Lacking something that a miniscule amount of elves are is just meh

It was not me who said this topic should be closed, but you. As i said i just reflecting what is inside you. :slight_smile:

:joy: :joy:

I think in near future we will see all races/combos as option to be playable. First step already made for mages/rogues/priests all races.

If the interview is to be believed then yeah, once some more lore and effort (ie druid forms, paladin steeds, shaman totmens etc) are added then it should be wide open for every combo.
Or at least nearly every combo.

I wouldnt be shocked if demon hunter and evoker are restricted

Everyone knows Shadow priests are normal. But the idea that forsaken priests using the Light is normal is being pushed as well, because of Alonsus. And so far, he is the only Forsaken priest representing what is presumably a tiny fragment of his race, and yet we can play them as priests.

I’d say that High Elves qualify as paladins, both lore and gameplay-wise, then.

Priests are a weird class as they hold polar opposites within itself.
It has both light and shadow.

So when one spec really fits, but one doesn’t, we can easily assume the reason they got the class was to give them the spec that works

There is no reason to act as if its deeper than that

Everyone have their preferences. You have yours. I, personally, have in all my years playing WoW wanted to be a High Elf paladin. Probably because of nostalgia, because the first character I ever RPed was a High Elf paladin back in the days. And I recall plenty of people RPing High Elf Paladin and Priest, among hefty lore nerds.

I don’t see any obstacles which should stand in the way of allowing this combo.

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Obstacles as a class for high elves?
None apart from they’re currently not a playable race outside of the blood elf version, or the void version.
One has paladins (horde) one does not (alliance)

Giving them to void elves has massive challenges since its a light class and a void race.
Even if you don’t believe in how they interact there is no justification for a void elf choosing the light.

If high elves were their own race then yeah, little to no reason to stop it happening.

However if it did not happen, it would not be a missing combo that betrayed the lore

That can really be said about any race+class combo, by virtue of the fact that it’s not playable. We know there are plenty of other class+race combos that exist in the lore which aren’t playable. If something is not playable, that does not necessarily mean that it does NOT exist, or the opposite.

The point being: If Velves were divided into two sub-races, the other being High Elves, then granting them paladins as a playable class would only make sense, as we know they exist in the lore.

Same way that we know there are only 3 Night elf paladins that exist in the lore, but now that Blizz has confirmed they will open up the restrictions of class+race combos more, we will likely get Nelf paladins in the near future.