Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race (Part 1)

This will never happen nor should it happen
Make high elves their own race or not at all
Don’t drag void elves down to make them playable

Unless there is a glaring omission of a race that does not have a class then I’m fine with that.
For example I don’t believe light forged should ever get warlock.

Not Anasterian no, “He” never wanted High elves to join the Alliance. He wanted to keep Silvermoon Isolated from the rest of the world. Doesn’t mean all High Elves were like that and Alleria was the one that got the High elves to the alliance not Anasterian. She went behind his back and got like-minded High elves to join her. It took alot of effort to get Anasterian to agree to join the alliance. in the past The high elves would have been wiped out if the humans didn’t help them with the Amani trolls. and as a shown of good faith Anasterian agreed to teach the humans magic and humans and high elves build Dalaran as their cooperation between elves and humans. After they finished teaching the humans. Most of those elves decided to stay with the humans in Dalaran instead of going back to Silvermoon. Being in Dalaran for years, Dalaran had become their new home.

And those that Alleria had gathered stayed with the Alliance because they belived in the Alliance just like her. After silvermoon fell and Rommath came to SIlvermoon with the new technique, Some were excited and went to silvermoon but after finding out what it did they got angry and Lor’themar had to exile them so there wouldn’t be a civil war in Silvermoon. The alliance high elves and some blood elves decided to go back to human village and cites as I mention eariler. and stayed there to this day. Then later in Kalimdor there was High elves in Theramore and Jaina had made the remnants of Loredron Alliance there to the Western Alliance but later joined the Grand alliance. In outland there was remnants there too of Lorderon alliance and they joined the Grand alliance in BC. Stormwind’s Grand Alliance is also remnants of the Lorderon Alliance which makes them part of the Lorderon Alliance.
When the ancient High elf blade was reforged in the sunwell. Auric Sunchaser
was there to Represent the Alliance. He was “not” there to go back home to Silvermoon. It was a pilgrim journey to the Sunwell. He is still part of the Alliance.

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I only see a tree and night elves burning. Way better storyline.

I find the whole lore argument of history to be silly.

Fact: high elves as a whole cared little for the alliance and got royally screwed at the end

Fact: the alliance still has high elves to this day

One does not change the other

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I think you’re somewhat missing the point of what I am proposing. Like I said. Everyone have their preferences.

I do not see how they can do High Elves that much differently from Velves and Belves. It’s not like they have anything unique about them that makes them stand out when compared to their cousins. Adding High Elf as a sub-race wouldn’t drag down Void elves at all. They’d simply be there, side by side, as sub-races.

With the “Blood Elf” customizations you were given recently, you essentially have High Elves already. You’re really only missing the label “High Elf”. That’s all. Add that and you got High Elves.

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If Anasterian doesn’t speak for all the High Elves, neither does Alleria. The elves who joined her were very few and their priority was to protect their homeland from the Orcs, not join the Alliance.

Which still represent a ridiculously small amount of High Elves compared to Quel’thalas’ population as a whole.

Anyway. Lots of ramble that doesn’t disprove the point I made :woman_shrugging:

I imagine they would considering void elves got customisation to look like a normal high elf.
Void elf fans got nothing void added to them
But that’s likely all we will get for years.

If they became 2 races under one banner (a first for wow) I could easily see the same happening again

That must be that way only, expanding Dh to high/void elves and nightborne/darkfallen.

It already happened. Now we will rebuild and get new shiny most adorable and biggest tree in all universe that will pierce through all worlds.

Makes zero sense lore wise

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Maybe Alonsus has a trick to it, Like Alleria on how to control the void without falling to the voices influence.

How did they get screwed? Doomhammer needed a win for the horde because the morality was down within the horde and fighting the high elves was a losing battle so He decided to take Lorderon. Which forced the humans to go back to Lorderon and Anasterian felt betrayed and so did the Amani trolls by the horde. But the humans could not be in two places at the same time.

The High elves managed to hold off the trolls on their own and a few trees got burned, that’s all so that was childish of Anasterian to leave the Alliance. And the Amani trolls didn’t have enough to take Silvermoon down so they instead tried to destroy as much as possible but failed in the end.

Or do you mean when the Scrouge attacked. Who could come to the rescue? Lorderon had fallen before Silvermoon was attacked and the remaining in the area of Lorderon was on the run and scattered, and at the time there was no leadership left. Stormwind? …well Do you know how far its between Silvermoon and Stormwind. That battle lasted a few days. If the shield would have hold the Stormwind Humans would have saved the High elves. But the High elves were betrayed by one of there own who was working with Arthas and the scrouge. Dar’Khan Drathir was the one. But all horde players seem to forgotten he ever existed for some reason. So was no chance the Stormwind could get there in time. There was rumors that High elf messengers was sent to Stormwind but never got there because they got cut down by the scourge. Because the High elves knew and Sylvanas knew that Lorderon had already fallen before Arthas and the Scourge got to the gates of Quel’thalas.

So the only one that screwed The high elves was Garithos but he only did it because he had his own goal. To take Lorderon for himself. To proclaim himself as King. That was his dream. Never bend the knee or take orders from others. So what he did to Keal’thas was to test if Keal’thas was Loyal to him. Not Alliance because Garithos never cared for the Alliance. He used the Alliance for his own gain.

The trick is called having faith, which is the basics for any priest.

Always bad mouthing Horde players for no reason. Blood Elf players are well aware of who Dar’khan was and what he did, we got a quest line involving him during TBC.

I’m sure you can see from what you just typed why they might not be all yay alliance though yeah?

Got left to defend themselves so their alliance meant nothing and then later they were going to die because of it.

Not really the foundations for a good relationship

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Because horde players never mention him. Its all “its Alliance fault, Alliance bad, bad” When its not true and never was.

No its not. Its was childish decision. Because if the army had stayed in Quel’thalas, Loredron would have fallen. And its something High elves should have understood. The human’s home was under attack and without support, Lorderon would have fallen. And the High elves “would” have done the same thing if their home was under attacked if they were suppose to help the Humans protect Lorderon.

And as you saw what I wrote, that the Amani didn’t have enough to take down Silvermoon. Without the horde backing them up, they were no more than a nuisance for the high elves.

And my point still stands. And that is that High elves are In the Alliance. And with void elves and Lightfroged Draenai and Mag’har orcs. Populations does not matter to make a race playable anymore. Lightforged Draenai only have small group on that ship. There is no more, except for those regular Draenai that players play that go through the trial to become Lightforged but not all regular Draenai are doing the trial. The mag’har orcs there is no more than the ones that came through the portal. There is no more. Void elves is an elite squad, no more than 20 tops. The rest is regular blood elves and stragglers of high elves than can’t be fully void elf until they find a way to recreate the event that created them. So they are trained the same way as Alleria was, trained by Locus-walker.

Yes, “it’s your or its me and I choose me” and “well it worked out in the end”
And garithos on top of that.

Regardless of if it made sense from the human side, they would be bitter.
Of course they would.
Anyone would be.

Nobody in their right mind blames the Alliance for the fall of Quel’thalas O.o The Alliance (most specifically Uther and Jaina) can be criticized for not stopping Arthas in Stratholme but that’s all.

Which I never denied. What I disagree with is your claim that most High Elves wanted to be in the Alliance when nothing supports it.

Subject completely unrelated to what we were talking about but why not

Untrue. First generation of Void Elves like mine who were on Telogrus when the incident with Durzaan happened were few, but new recruits both from Alliance (High Elves) and Horde (Blood Elves who fled Quel’thalas) can be seen learning how to use Void energy in Telogrus with the Locus Walker. That’s the reason why you could make your Void Elf look like a High Elf lore wise. They are still Void Elves once their apprenticeship is over. Their allegiance goes to Umbric, Alleria and the Alliance.

And what you clearly still don’t understand is that the High Elves had no consideration or respect for humans to begin with. Their problems don’t concern them. The Quel’dorei are very much a racist bunch, the Windrunner sisters and Kael’thas were all heavily criticized for having romantic interests with this lesser race that they deemed beneath them. That’s another reason why the elves who agreed to follow Alleria and join the Alliance were very few.

Considering the Humans had their own kingdoms, the way I see it was like ww3 and the UK is being invaded by Germany.
France is their ally and swore to defend them.
In their hour of need France helps Spain instead.

It might not be a shocker. But if afterwards, France asked to be friends again, would the UK assume their alliance would mean they would get help?
Didn’t work the last time

Ok you guys really need to take it down a notch. You are literally, and I mean literally, treating game lore like real life lore. This is a GAME. It’s fantasy. Fictional. It’s all made up. And can you guess the reasons some lore is made up??? TO SERVE SPECIFIC GOALS! XD XD The lore was MADE in this way so that Blood elves would become the ‘‘cool elves of the Horde’’. Nothing else. And if you want to go back all the way to warcraft 3 and the High elf history and check what the lore actually is, when the Scourge invaded, it was JAINA and the DWARVES who assisted the High elves of Quel’Thalas. The Alliance prior to that assisted the High elves in the Troll wars. The Blood / High elves had GOOD reasons to REMAIN in the Alliance, but majority chose to follow Kael’thas because a villain had to be forged by Blizzard for the Horde. Garithos was eventually defeated by Lady Vash, who served Illidan, who, newsflash, was neutral. Not a Hordie. Kael’thas followed ILLIDAN for a very long time. Not the Horde. Everything after this is made up exclusively to support the reasons why Blizzard chose to give Blood elves to the Horde. It’s really simple. SMH.

And I get it that the classes currently available to Void elves fit them thematically. That does not mean that we’re not allowed to ask for anything else and, as most people do when writing a story, make up stories on how more classes can fit the Void elves.

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Yeah, and it’s common for High Elves in fantasy to be racist. You being shocked by my statement shows how unfamiliar you are with the genre. They’re not the only racists in WoW by the way, but that’s a different discussion. What’s wrong with saying it?

Some could be considered racist. Not everyone was. The lore states that High elves and Wild hammer dwarves had such good relations among each other that they wanted to facilitate a trade union. After Jaina escorted the surviving High elves from the Scourge invasion to safety, the Wild hammer dwarves where the ones who hosted them. The story is actually really moving and wonderful to read and I’m disappointed that just to serve your agenda and arguments you portray the High elves of specifically WoW as racist. Because in general the High elves of WoW were a good and noble, valiant race.

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Racism in a fictional universe that has, mildly put, multiple humanoid races of vastly different cultures and beliefs shouldn’t be a shocker to anyone. It is also quite inevitable.

IRL, we only have Humans. Quite a big difference there.

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