Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race (Part 1)

This is a very good question. Sadly, Moontear is going to find a way to circumvent it if he has no answer (which he doesn’t) because that he is what he does in his futile desperation.

He doesn’t comprehend the common sense and logic behind the differences of race, ethnicity, and culture.

For some reason, he argues that, if all these 3 races were one single race, they’d be unified under one banner, whereas looking at Humans in real life, we’re all the one and same race, but under different national banners.

This is a stumbling point for him. The thing is, he won’t admit it, so he is going to revert back to his original arguments that “nope, blood elf is blood elf and high elf is high elf cuz that is what we see in-game.”

There’s no convincing the mind of one who is quarrelsome just for the sake of it, despite how many times he’s been proven wrong.

Yes, those nocturnal creatures were Dark Trolls. Read up on lore. That’s all I am gonna say about that, without getting reeled more into your troll-bait arguments of self-inserted headcanon.

The links you provided even says that there is still contention surrounding the topic. That means that nobody knows for SURE. So you coming here saying blatantly “Trolls did not evolve from Nelves” as though that’s an indisputable fact just pulls at my laugh-cords.

No, nocturnal creatures called themselves Kaldorei before evolving into night elves we see today. It has nothing to do with trolls. Trolls were in other places not around well of eternity.

I stated facts you did not accepted the truth.

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Mate. Moontear. Buddy. This doesn’t work :slight_smile: Not on me. The Night Elves named themselves Kaldorei (Children of the stars) after they’d become Night Elves.

I can’t fathom as to why you believe anyone should find a good reason to believe you when you’re trying to spin it around completely and make it something that hasn’t been confirmed by lore or Blizzard at all.

The lore we actually have on the matter tilts more to the side of the claim that the Nelves evolved from Trolls. There’s stronger evidence for that than anything else.

You have no proof, again. As always, and all you’re doing is jebaiting people in here.

I am not sure why I keep allowing myself to take the bait. I probably feel a bit sorry for people like you who feel the need to do this x)

The sources you provided longer up themselves mention that it is SPECULATED. They don’t say with absolute certainty that they DID evolve or DID NOT evolve.

So, you really have no grounds on which you can make the conclusive claim “Nelves did not evolve from Trolls.”

You simply don’t know if they did or not. Humble yourself.

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They were already nocturnal creatures , well of eternity just made them stronger and immortal.

i linked proofs. you did not liked the truth.

Yes i know, im the night elf. Why this bothering you so much, that i know my race lore?

You’re not a night elf. That’s your fantasy character. You’re a human being, and your knowledge about night elven and troll lore is erroneous regarding this topic. It’s as simple as that.

It doesn’t matter if you don’t like the Titans’ point of view. The chronicle book page 93 talks about the Dark Trolls and how they were nocturnal creatures that lived under Mount Hyjal in labyrinthian groves and caves, etc.

That’s stronger evidence than what you’ve provided :slight_smile:

|I am.

Truth. That’s why you do not like this, because it is how it is.

That’s exactly that chronicles are , a lie. Point of a view of the titans.

It doesn’t matter if you don’t like the Titans’ point of view. The chronicle book page 93 talks about the Dark Trolls and how they were nocturnal creatures that lived under Mount Hyjal in labyrinthian groves and caves, etc.

nocturnal creatures are nocturnal creatures. Dark trolls are dark trolls. they are not same.

« The Twin Empires » says they were originally Amani trolls, check the link I’ve posted in the message you replied to. I also mentioned that this was later retconned by « Chronicles » that established the Kaldorei to be descended from Dark Trolls.

Hahahahaha!! :rofl::rofl:

Again wrong since that is not how it works or how they where name in game. Calling it a fact when it is NOT a fact doesn’t make it a fact.

Wrong again they are still high elves since they only change POLITICAL NOT RACE.

Wrong again blood elves and void are still high elves since again that is their RACE.

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yes it is how it works, blood elves are blood elves not high elves.

Not only politcal, lifestyle , skintones, voice, faction, feeding on fel magic. That’s are differences. yes they are elves, but not high elves anymore.

No they are elves as race yes, but they aren’t same race anymore. Facts. You are blood elf warlock, game identify you as one, lore identify you as one, tooltips identify you as one.

If you want to play high elves, they are in the alliance, yet not playable. Like silver covenant high elves.

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Wrong again blood elves are high elves you would know that if you played the games. Man you really are stupid.

Wrong only political everything else stayed the same and they still have the same voice and so on so they are still high elves.

Wrong again blood elves are high elves and that is the fact unlike YOU who still haven show ANY evidence to to contrary since even the lore consider blood elves to be high elves. Since they never when thru a RACE CHANGE.

Wrong again high elves left the alliance since Warcraft 3 even if my character is called blood elves they are still high elves since that is their race. Void elves are also high elves to you can play a high elves in the alliance.

How many brain cells do you think you’ve lost trying to debate with this guy? :rofl:

A lot of them. :joy:

no , blood elves are blood elves, high elves are high elves and void elves are void elves. None of them except real high elves but high elves.

High elves have different voice then blood elves or void elves. skin tones, and LORE. different. you can claim what you want, blood elves aren’t high elves.

wrong. high elves are not playable, void and blood elves, yes. But they are not high elves.

All three of them are high elves even the lore say so. So again YOU ARE WRONG.

WRONG again all three of the are the same even the lore are the same clearly you never played the game or READ THE LORE.

ALL three are playable since void and blood are HIGH ELVES. Hell you still haven’t proven me or anybody else wrong. Where are your evidence that blood elves and void elves are not high elves when even BLIZZ say that they are?

That is true. While in WOTLK they were given the copy pasted Night elf smooth voices without the “Elune” and “Ishnu’alah” of course. In mist of pandaria however, you can see in Isle of thunder they were given their own unique voices with unique dialogues, Vereesa too was given a unique voice as previously she used the standard night elf/ high elf voice.

But sadly, they never used these unique voices outside the isle of thunder and they continued to use the Night elf copied voices to this very day, aside from Vereesa. Maybe it’s not worth updating.

That is true. Blood elves and Void elves are technically high elves, which is why the customizations was given.

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No, they are all 3 different type of elves. Blood elves and void elves are not high elves anymore.

Not wrong. we have 3 different races, that’s how game identify them as.

High elves are not playable, such as Silver Covenant high elves.

It’s close to night elves but not same, a bit different.

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You know literally no one I know irl have the same voice as me… Does that make me an alien?

But they are… its just that one uses a different source of magic than the other.

Every current born High elf who is now a Blood elf or void elf are still the same species of Elf as from birth. They just changed factions and use of magic.