The hairstyles and hair colours also say something that Blood Elf fans want to keep for us, and only us, as is our right. You don’t deserve those features.
They’ll most probably add them though… beh.
Well we have to stand firm and say “enough is enough.”
The Blood elf community has been so respectful and accepting during this whole process - we do have a voice as well and we shouldn’t be silenced.
We have to make it known to Blizzard that Blood Elf features - old and new - should stay with Blood Elves.
And if they choose to do this, then I think Nightborne should not only get all the Night Elf features, but they should also get some additions, such as narrow eyes and perhaps fel-tattoos for Nightborne Warlocks as well as other features.
Blood Elves lost their racial uniqueness in WotLK when they became just another race of minions for the Evil faction.
Well we have to stand firm and say “enough is enough.”
The entitlement is unreal.
The Blood elf community has been so respectful and accepting during this whole process
No.
The Belfs being cloned will result in the loss of their uniqueness. That is not an opinion, that is a fact. Notice how that fact underlines a loss. See how it works?
Uniqueness I can agree with to a certain degree. Blood elves are now yielding uniqueness as a playable race. They did with the coming of the void elves, and will loose further uniqueness with the new skin tones and hopefully hair. To be fair, though, the same race has been a part of the Alliance since before they became a playable Horde race, albeit not playable. Blood elves were, in that regard, never completely unique to the Horde. And people still play them, and will continue to do so, however playable the high elves are getting. Furthermore, I and other high elf fans have been suggesting options that would make blood and high elves more different, such as different options for all features that aren’t genetic. Hair styles, jewellery, tattoos, adornments - even postures and movement have been suggested to keep the uniqueness that you make to be so important. We’ve been quite accommodating when faces with the issue of blood elf uniqueness.
That being said, nothing is being taken from blood elves. When opening the game and logging in, you won’t get a different playing experience because of someone else getting to look like you. Other blood elf players don’t diminish your playing experience, do they? Why would high elves being playable on the Alliance reduce your experience any more?
I suggested the compromise is actually listening to what horde players have been asking for, like green troll skills, or giving nightborne a makeover (I don’t recall anyone asking for new earrings), which have yet to be revealed.
Yes! So much this!
Like, as an alliance player, you have to accept blizzard are doing alliance a solid here, because they’re focusing very closely on an alliance ask, and they’re running with it.
I hope they do. I really do. But if proper hair colours and less voidy styles accompany the new skin tones and eye colours, it’ll all be for no good for a lot of us.
Whilst this doesn’t meant horde will get nothing, I think it would pay to be a bit more mindful of looking at how they may see it.
I’m all in favour of Horde players getting more of what they ask for. Blood elves and Nightborne both need more love, and have a lot of potential that I hope Blizzard decides to fulfill.
They’ll most probably add them though… beh.
I truly hope they do. The skin tones and eye colours would feel quite useless without the hair.
High Elf fanatics - don’t care for Blood Elf fans or their voices and concerns. Selfish people.
Blood Elf fans need to stand firm and say “No.”
Blood Elf fans need to stand firm and say “No.”
This isn’t blood elves versus high elves. We can stand together, you know.
Again this is a thread about high elves in the alliance becoming playable. Not void elves, or blood elves or horde haters.
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Whatever…
Boring wall of text in an already even more boring redundant and already answered by blizzard topic , stay with the void substitude they gave you to stop whining because you won’t get high elves in the alliance DEAL WITH IT!
stay with the void substitude they gave you
It seems we will do just that. Not that I ever actually considered void elves a substitute. But with the new skin and hopefully hair options, I think we might actually be happy.
I mean, we’ll still be asking for the choice to have the racial abilities appear as arcane or something else not void, and the option to change out void tendrils in the hair for braids. Perhaps also for other hairstyles (I’d love a few longer hairs without the widow’s peaks for males) adapted from night elves, humans and dwarfs. But all in all, it looks like the “void substitute” as you call it, might just do the trick. So that’s what this whole topic has become about now.
ot that I ever actually considered void elves a substitute.
HA HA HA HA ok bro whatever lol!
HA
Take a look at my character. Look at the mog. Does it look like I’m playing him as a substitute for high elves? No, Azrathel is ALL about the void. Pets, toys, mounts - I love void elves for what they are in their own right.
And I’ll hopefully come to love them even more for encompassing high elves as well.
the choice to have the racial abilities appear as arcane or something else not void
I really hope this never happens.
I’m a fan of Void Elves and I don’t like the idea of them having options to completely remove the Void part of them.
The race should always have to be void at the end of the day.
Its like wanting to play as a worgen but with the option to make them transform into something other than a wolf.
Take a look at my character. Look at the mog. Does it look like I’m playing him as a substitute
Yes it does
I really hope this never happens.
I’m a fan of Void Elves and I don’t like the idea of them having options to completely remove the Void part of them.
The race should always have to be void at the end of the day.Its like wanting to play as a worgen but with the option to make them transform into something other than a wolf.
Seeing as this seems to be the only solution we’re getting for playable high elves, it would actually make sense. I want void elves to still be able to be fully void elves, but I’d also like to be able to play as high elven as possible for those characters that will be high elves. But I’d love for worgen to be able to change into night elf form out of combat instead of humans. =p
And if they choose to do this, then I think Nightborne should not only get all the Night Elf features
That’s it really, Nightborne receiving Night Elf skin colours would be the current equivalent (and, lore aside, heck do Nightborne need more skin colours!) And people Alliance side might be cool with that, but there is currently no indication of it happening.
Time will tell. I’m sure stuff will continue to be added during beta, just as the updated player models were. I’m eager to see what comes out of it for everyone! I’m particularly fond of the Night Elf and Troll customisations as things are now.
Hair styles, jewellery, tattoos, adornments - even postures and movement have been suggested to keep the uniqueness that you make to be so important. We’ve been quite accommodating when faces with the issue of blood elf uniqueness.
I wonder why they didn’t change posture for Void Elves like they did Nightborne? Would have been interesting to see, but maybe the smaller models were more difficult to work with, or they simply wanted to preserve the stances. Anyways, I’ve seen good reasons for the discussion from both sides, and indeed it’s nice when it’s a discussion and not an argument. I feel your approach to High Elves is one of the more reasonable I’ve seen. I understand well the frustration on the Horde side of things, but it’s good to read your points, too, as it’s a more open-minded approach to High Elves that advocates for both sides customisation-wise. There is a lot of passion for the High Elf/Blood Elf race as a whole in this thread which is cool to see.
Itw not me who wants more, as said I’m an alliance player mostly, and MGs are my gig. I’m happy to hear we may be getting a new metal Colour or a hand option or two, I’m pretty easily satisfied comparatively.
Your posts are always music to my eyeballs. Sorry if this is random. It’s always a pleasure to see your reasonable and non-partisan posts in the forums.
Blood Elves lost their racial uniqueness in WotLK when they became just another race of minions for the Evil faction.
Spare me your alliance fanboy rhetoric.
albeit not playable.
Exactly.
Blood elves were, in that regard, never completely unique to the Horde.
That is exactly what they were. A unique Horde playable race. Let’s not dance around the subject.
And people still play them, and will continue to do so, however playable the high elves are getting.
And this is your argument? That based on your opinion someone will still play them. Well let’s apply that formula to Velfs, while they are not Helfs, they come as close as you can get in the Alliance to being that. At the same time, the Void Elves were established as a severely altered race with a specific theme that is alienated enough from the original to be called a new race but similar enough in aspect that at least it resembles the respective race. So the question is, why sacrifice two races to please a vocal minority who the more they are given, the more they ask? Answer that imagining I’m a third party with no stake on either side.
Furthermore, I and other high elf fans have been suggesting options that would make blood and high elves more different, such as different options for all features that aren’t genetic. Hair styles, jewellery, tattoos, adornments - even postures and movement have been suggested to keep the uniqueness that you make to be so important.
What you have been suggesting are ways to clone the belfs, worded in a way that you imagine it might fool the rest into thinking you are making a reasonable request, when you are, in fact, advocating for the cloning of an existing race.
We’ve been quite accommodating when faces with the issue of blood elf uniqueness.
And this is the perfect example of your hypocrisy and entitlement. You act as if you are doing belfs a favor by not demanding an exact clone, just a mostly identical clone. Are you for real? Do you actually think people are dumb enough to fall for this?
Uniqueness I can agree with to a certain degree.
That being said, nothing is being taken from blood elves.
So allow me to be very amused at the way you started out this reply and the way you ended it. You just showed me a live demonstration of mental gymnastics. By the end you talked yourself in to believing that actually there’s no loss. It’s all good. Again I ask, you honestly believe people are this stupid?
But I’d love for worgen to be able to change into night elf form out of combat instead of humans. =p
Thats the wrong way around though
The core of void elves is the void like the core of the worgen is the worgen curse.
I’d say night elf being an option to playing worgen is more comparable to the high elf options for void elves.
There are/were night elves that have the worgen curse, just like how the high elf customisation is there for the high elves in Telogrus rift that have been studying the void all expansion.
I want void elves to still be able to be fully void elves,
they are a cheap substitude mate
I’d also like to be able to play as high elven as possible
play horde
But I’d love for worgen to be able to change into night elf form out of combat instead of humans
the dwarfs would make amazing short elves too and the gilneans fat elves