Your cope isn’t reality. Just take void elves with normal looks and be happy instead of being annoying.
This argument would only be valid if we assume that currently Blood Elves don’t have identity of their own, which is false. Their have a very strong identity, coming from both their millennia old High Elven heritage and tragic events of recent time.
Yea, and others prefer them overcoming this dark period and embracing the light that now infuses the Sunwell. Devs seem to prefere that too, as practicing fel magic is now outlawed in the city (as evidenced by the new murder row dungeon), and it’s the light of the Sunwell that helps save the city in Midnight cinematic.
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I never argued that they never had an identity, only against the idea that their identity would be lessened if/when high elves for the alliance get added… as you have elucidated, they have a strong identity, and adding high elves wouldn’t take that away.
Yea, and others prefer them overcoming this dark period and embracing the light that now infuses the Sunwell. Devs seem to prefere that too, as practicing fel magic is now outlawed in the city (as evidenced by the new murder row dungeon), and it’s the light of the Sunwell that helps save the city in Midnight cinematic.
If you check X at the moment, there are people who are rather unhappy with Blood Elves banning fel magic. It is a form of revisionism in and out of universe for them to do a 180 and go against it after accepting it. What does that say to the many people who play blood elf warlocks?
Devs seem to prefere that too
We don’t know yet. Maybe there’s a subversion. Maybe there’s something in the questline that says that we need all hands on deck to fight off Xal’atath. Light knows, we need Devourer Demon Hunters
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and that comes from you, oh please
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Of course it would be lessened. They are currently depicted as Light Elves, as opposed to Void Elves. There’s no place in this dichotomy for a third race, without taking something from either of them. Also this:
It says to them that they should read the lore a bit more often. Most of the population never knew that the crystals dotting Silvermoon are infused with fel, and and many would be horrified if they discovered it:
Even so, the prince’s relatively quick acceptance of dire measures (e.g., draining magic from demons) is by no means characteristic of blood elves in general. The blood elves of Outland have by now discovered Kael’thas’ agreement with Illidan, and they have for the most part become convinced of its necessity. Most blood elves still live on Azeroth, though. Few of these elves know of Kael’thas’ pact with Illidan, and many would be horrified if they discovered it. Draining magic from small mana-bearing vermin is a far cry from draining magic from demons. Yet, as their hunger grows, blood elves–particularly those in Outland–are becoming increasingly inured to the things they must do in order to obtain more magic.
This is a quote from Warcraft encyclopedia, definitely not a new lore material. As early as MoP Rommath already said that fel crystals “were once used” by the Blood Elves, implying they no longer use them.
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/What%27s_in_the_Box%3F
Heck, Kael’thas Sunstrider’s addiction to fel magic was the very reason his brethren in Silvermoon turned against him!
If someone only now finds out that Blood Elves were never fully on board with fel magic, and turned away from it once the Sunwell was restored, well, that’s on them. Lorewise there’s no revisionism, and certainly not 180.
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I m still waiting for any serious quel’dorei enjoyer from the HE fan club.
question is :
Why, in 2025, if you really love the quel’dorei race why can’t you join blood elves?
Why, if you like high elves, do you stay in alliance and using blueberry model?
- no one will lorewise ask you to mana tap any living creature
- no one will lorewise ask you to use fel crystals
- you ll have access to silvermoon, no more as an enemy
- you ll be with 90% of quel dorei people
If you, HE fan club, have no serious arguments except awful sentence like “duuh I like human and playing with dwarves and draeneis…” you re not a quel’dorei enjoyer.
You re just a tolkien weeb
Stop arguing with things before end of TBC
the alliance thing is not an argument, HE were in the alliance only during 3 years in the entire history of our people
14years in the horde : good choice
thousand of years as independant people, no horde no alliance.
for the thousand time :
Quel’dorei =/= Tolkien’s elves
Quel’dorei =/= Tolkien’s elves
Quel’dorei =/= Tolkien’s elves
Quel’dorei =/= Tolkien’s elves
staying in the alliance with the VE model for “playing HE” is like digging your own problem hole and farming your eternal denial/illusion/complain
If you dont have argument :
no problem, but stop asking for playable HE without lore argument or anything else
you re asking something that you cannot explain, justify, etc… its hilarious
At this point, especially after we saw that there s gonna be no playable HE in midnight, its litteraly forum harassment, flood then maybe spam.
If I ask you, in our WoW timeline, TWW/2025, to justify/explain/argue about “why do we need to add playable HE” i m sure you cant say anything serious.
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Still waiting? Then keep waiting. The answer is simple: because High Elves are not blood elves. They made a different choice after Kael’thas renamed his people and tied them to the horde. Identity is not just “biology,” it’s culture, politics and loyalty.
High Elves chose the Alliance, and they stayed with it for decades. That’s why people who love High Elves don’t just “join blood elves”. If you want a horde version, play a blood elf. If you want the Alliance version, you play High Elves - even if right now that means using Void Elf models.
It’s 2025, and the fact you’re still asking this question shows you don’t understand the difference 
And honestly, the more I read comments here from High Elf haters - fanatical traitors who now play for the horde - the more I see how real the difference between High Elves and blood elves actually is and that is exactly why I will never side with the horde’s bootlickers
#quel’dorei2025 
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Please scroll up. I gave you a comprehensive answer, I encourage you to read it
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Man, I reall invite You to read up on Polish history. The country was wiped out from the map, lost it’s independence for 123 years due to partitions, yet the people kept their identity, and look - here it is again! And let me assure You - Poles were as politically divided then as they are now (which is to say, very much). And it was not about loyalty either - they tried to reestablish the state both with the help of western countries like France, and by working with Russian Empire (which was on of the partitioning powers!). They’d ally with the devil himself if he promised them their own country!
- What is the difference, in 2025 TWW, about the HE and BE culture?
- Politics? Really ? in TWW where there is no faction war and nothing else ?
- Loyalty ? To what / who? → “horde bootlickers” ? do you know there is no more warchief and horde is lead by a council of every race leader?
Your loyalty actualy belong to stormwind, humans and alliance.
Instead of Silvermoon, Quel’thalas and 90% of the living quel’dorei
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High Elf fans just really want an extra race slot to clone the Blood Elves for a third time, but with fewer numbers than a murloc camp.
Their ‘kingdom’ is basically Vereesa’s tavern in Dalaran, four scattered houses and a couple of trinket vendors.
Some identity that is!!!
They’re already represented by the Ren’dorei.
The rest is nothing but nostalgia cosplay.
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Its always the same tired arguments. They do spend more time in the forums gatekeeping than in the game.
I am sure we will get High Elves, It does not take anything away from BE and VE, despite the act otherwise.
But again, thank you for keeping the thread so active, its a joy to see!
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Midnight expansion says : New Allied Race is Haronir, not HE.
No lore questline announced about HE, vereesa or anything HE things
Blizzard will never implement playable high elves in retail.
mourn it
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All I can say is, look at the concept art in TBC. Look at the colour of the eyes and the magic used by the new blood elves.
Sure, you can say that they’ve changed and are now redeemed and use the light for their source of magic, but that doesn’t mean their dark past gets to be whitewashed.
And even if we were to assume most blood elves were innocent of using fel magic, this still leaves the issue of the Blood Knights resorting to darker methods than their Silver hand counterparts (corrupting a horse to be their charger, for example and torturing Mu’ru)
And let’s address the leper gnome in the basement… Yeah, the Blood Elves were okay with slavery. Maybe they’ve abolished that too in recent years?
But back to your original point:
Of course it would be lessened. They are currently depicted as Light Elves, as opposed to Void Elves. There’s no place in this dichotomy for a third race, without taking something from either of them. Also this:
I believe Blood Elves can have dark ranger aesthetics and there are calls for them to have more options exclusive to them. I’m all for it and I’m all for these things to be exclusive to the Horde. These distinctions would not go away with High Elves
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All I can say is read up on the lore and You’ll know that the eye colour changed by passive exposition to fel energies and most Blood Elves didn’t know that the green crystals use fel energy.
Broader Blood Elven population has nothing to whitewash.
We don’t need to assume that, that’s literally what the lore is.
This was resolved at the end of TBC, Liadrin was very explicit at acknowledgement that what they’ve done was wrong. Again, if anyone’s only now finding out that Blood Knights aren’t that edgy anymore, that’s on them.
Do You seriously mean to say that all Blood Elves are ok with slavery due to that one basement? Come on now…
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So you care about the faction not the elves because you want to keep the tolkien trope where elves and humans are friends alive. Lol so fake and cringe.
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Um, yes?
Unless if there’s updated lore in Midnight where the rest of blood elf society condemns it and makes things right, then yes, allowing or accepting it as part of your society does give the implication that everyone’s okay with it.
You could go around the antebellum Southern United States and find people who were very much against slavery, but that doesn’t change the fact that society at large condoned it and accepted it
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Eh…:
Following the Fourth War, Mathias Shaw described the shop in his report as a bright, deceptively pleasant clothing shop that once operated here concealed the leper gnomes’ labor, implying that the shop no longer functions.
Warcraft Wiki, citing “World of Warcraft: Exploring Azeroth: The Eastern Kingdoms” pg. 91 (unfortunately, I don’t own the book myself.)
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Keelen%27s_Trustworthy_Tailoring
Leper Gnomes labour was concealed, which means people weren’t aware of it. And ask Yourself: why would they bother concealing it, if it would be legal and commonly accepted?
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High elf fans will grasp every straw for their argument.
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At this point. In 2025, TWW timeline ; refusing to join blood elves if you really “love quel’dorei” its like self-hate mindset
HE fan club arguments :
Duh… i like blue
Duh… i want to be with hoomans
Duh… Blood elves absorbed living beings
Duh… Blood elves are demons
Next step they gonna claim Silvermoon is their.
LOL
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