And though I was reluctant to treat with him at first, I have learned much from the Locus-Walker. Just bear in mind that anything he offers is bound to serve his own goals in some way
Which shows they're even aware so they won't fall for it. They're the ones scared of being pawns, I doubt they try to make others their pawns.
Blood Elves are High Elves.
No, then they would have been called high elves, but they're not, they're called blood elves.
I hope !@#$ing not... I will complain about that more so than the idea of playable Blood Elves on Alliance (I already dislike the Void Elves... but alas... atleast they are somewhat unique.)
Instead of protesting what others want, maybe you should advocate for something you want yourself in your own thread. Want to play Klaxxi? Tell blizzard.
Certainly... biology changes beings over the course of 11 years.
And now they will have golden eyes too. I am sorry, but no, their biology is not different.
Biology is the tiniest change in DNA. The fel altered their DNA so that all of them got green eyes, and that carried over to their children, meaning it's in the DNA, meaning their biology is different.
If yellow eyes carry over to children then we know that it's a DNA change aswell, emaning that would also be a change in biology.
So they are written as being absolutely nothing?
I was talking about the blood elves being written that way. High elves weren't mentioned in the pages we saw.
What I am actually saying, is that the Blood Elves are the High Elves from before 90% of their population died.
So... Blood Elves are the actual High Elves that people want, that much is obvious.
No you said they're culturally the same, something steaming fresh content says they're not.
And no, people wouldn't be asking for high elves if they wanted blood elves. I'm pretty sure all who say they want high elves have played blood elves. I even have a 110 blood elf character.
I don't... I just repeat what other people want.
Who are those other people? All I see here are people wanting high elves.
Well, I am appearantly much more knowledgeable on that matter, don't you think?
I for one atleast know that the Blood Elves are living every single aspect of High Elven culture from before 90% of their people were killed off.
Apparently not, because you just stated something brand new official lore directly contradicts. I think Christie Golden knows a bit more. She is on the writing team after all.
I have yet to read the new book, but according to you, the High Elves are not even High Elves anylonger.
It is almost like... oh no, that the High Elves are remembered for what they once were and not what they are.
They are -nothing- in this day and age... have no importance, no culture, they have absolutely nothing... appearantly.
No, you just misunderstood me. I was talking about the blood elves the whole time since high elves are not in the new book.
How long ago it was is actually not that clear. It could be years. But yes, I agree.
But you see, the thing the Void Elves have that differs from what people cling to is - they actual have potential future lore that sets them apart from the High Elves in the Horde.
I have to correct you there. The only high elves in the Horde is 3 unnamed NPCs. The others are called blood elves.
The High Elves have alot more obvious future lore. You have to be blind or just not wanting to see that the high elves are probably the easiest to write right now apart from the humans and forsaken. The high elves have so much conflict sitting right there. Theres a reason why blizzard can't help themselves but put them into every expansion in the game.
It is not. You can have a different mindset, that much is true, but just because you are left-wing or right-wing does not mean that your culture is different.
Not only does that kinda actually alter culture, but thats not all they're doing either. They live in whats pretty much different countries. Living in France is a different culture from living in Germay, and they're not even enemies.
And as I mentioned, the Horde does not really change mindsets or culture in the first place. The Blood Elves just realised that the Alliance is hurting the High Elves more than the Horde have ever done.
You're admitting to a difference right there. The blood elves might very well think that, but the high elves think the opposite, or els they would have joined the Horde aswell back in TBC.
She is essentially saying that they are nothing.
That is the extend of it. They are just humans with pointy ears.
What a trolly way to look at it. You can't seriously think thats true yourself, no matter how biased you are, thats some next level willful interpretation.
You're also contradicting yourself because you're saying they're the same as the blood elves, but now they're suddenly all half elves.
Jaina could just not have gotten involved.
Nonsense. Doesn't change anything though, it happend to the high elves, meaning they keep that right to be mad at the Horde.
Exactly, they are having a childish tantrum, nothing new for the High Elves.
They had the same problem following the second war
"IT IS BECAUSE OF YOU HUMAN'S TERRIBLE LEADERSHIP THAT THE HORDE MANAGED TO GET FAR ENOUGH TO BURN THE EDGES OF OUR FOREST EVEN THOUGH WE DID NOT SEND ANY HELP AT THE START TO PREVENT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE! GOODBYE!"
How does that even get close to relatable. Blood elves blow up loved ones = angry assaults in the sewers.
Seriously though, get out of character or whatever you're doing. Someone so biased they're straight up neglecting everything in the lore can't be taken seriously, which is sad because you're obviously passionate about it, so why not argue it properly.
Do you think he can just come back to Quel'thalas after being exiled?
No, but he doesn't exactly seem like he wants to. I don't think he would go back even if he could.
God I can't remember it all that well, but he talks about the princibles of the Alliance or something like that, and that he wants to free Quel'thalas from Sylvanas, I wish I could find it because I can't remember directly.
He finally admitted void was extremely dangerous and Rommath was right about forbidding void magic
Of course, it almost killed them. It was just lucky that Alleria was there with the player when the void guy showed up to enslave them.
He then claims that they'll find a way to control it, which is a vague promise in itself. Even Alleria, who has the most control over her void magic couldn't even control it during her visit to the Sunwell and unwillingly let void aberrations loose on the Sunwell.
She could control herself though. It was the fact that her void energy that clashed with the sunwell that made it go south. She didn't lose her mind or anything.
I don't think we have seen any void elves not manage to control themselves yet.
Void elves are literally timebombs set to explode who knows when
I doubt they would be playable if that was the case. When clashing with the biggest font of light energy in the world, yeah, their void biology will react with it. It's not a loss of power though.
how can you tell his mind hasn't already been addled after the first attempt of a void prince?
It would not only make their whole story pointless, and it would be too cliche. Plus, the fact that they're playable kind of spoils that it's not the case with them.
Majority of "the same High Elves" back then are Blood Elves today.
No, I don't think we know of any high elves returning to Silvermoon after TBC when they could. They all stayed alliance because Quel'thalas was in Horde hands.
with both of them out of the way I don't see a single reason for this separation now.
Theramore is a pretty big one. The fact that Sylvanas is still around desecrating everything. The burning of Teldrassil is probably also a big no no for the high elves. Also-... nevermind I don't want to spoil the book. it¨s a good read, very well written.
So you do admit that Silver Covenant is a bunch of bloodthirsty maniacs who are all too happy to butcher their own kin? My point exactly.
No, I say they're an organization opposite to that of the blood elves. Blood Elves bombed high elves out of the blue so I don't think you can really call the High Elves bloodthirsty maniacs. Anyone would and should be angry about it. It was not only an attack on the high elves and their human friends, it was an attack on the leader of the organization they're a big part of, which is also the ruler of their biggest home, Dalaran. it's pretty personal I'd say. Shows the cultural difference aswell.
Draenei, the very same race that put all the enemity and hatred between them and blood elves aside, worked together with blood elves on the purification of Sunwell, then further cooperated with them on (AU) Draenor. Yeah, they'l have no problem with reuniting with their kin in Quel'thalas.
I don't get what point you're trying to make here. Maybe I can't read because it's late or maybe it just doesn't make sense, idk. Explain further if you want.
Funny, because I think most of the void elves (at least ones whose brain haven't been addled by void) regret tampering with the void in the first place.
I think anyone would regeret something that makes them hear constant whispers, turns them blue, and makes them grow tentacles. That doesn't mean they regret joining the Alliance though. Many blood elves even wanted to do so in MoP.