Quel'dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race

Not actually. One year in our world isn’t necessarily World of Warcraft. I think this timeline on Gamepedia at: gamepedia dot com slash Timeline_(unofficial) (why can’t I post links?) shows how time has passed on Azeroth. Quel’Thalas was destroyed in year 22 after the First War, and we’re currently in about year 33, making it 11 years, if I’m not mistaken.

True that it’s the latest source, but at this point it is very old and not corroborated by any other sources. And it conflicts with the “Elves start to show signs of age when closing in on 3000” bit with Anasterian.

But the Warcraft lore is a… mess… to put it mildly. If Blizzard ever decides to clean it all up, I don’t envy the guy who gets that job.

True, it’s theoretically possible that you could have siblings born centuries if not millennia apart, but that makes it weird for them to have been close.
Most siblings are very close throughout their lives if they are raised together.
Siblings born decades apart never get that “bond”. At least this is true for most humans.
If we assume the same thing is true for Elves, then it becomes weird that the sisters are very close. Or well… Used to be… Because at some point they were very close.

I would find it odd at least.

Then let’s say Lorash was a pathological liar who just enjoyed making people scratch their heads at his false statements.

Oh dear lord… Mushroom sellers even…

I don’t mind fantasy races that live a long time, but tens of thousands of years is pushing it…
Go back ten thousand years and where were we? Almost at the end of a damn ice age is where! Civilization didn’t even exist!

Even in the game, Velen is older than all the civilizations of humanity! How can someone that old even befriend a human… Their perception of time would be so different that a human would more or less just poof in and out of existence… After all what is 80 years to someone who has lived for 25.000 years?

Geez… I prefer fantasy settings where the long lived races push 1000 years at most. But preferably stay within a few centuries of each other. Say a human can push a century and an elf can push 500 at most…
It makes them more relatable to each other. Someone who has lived for 300 years is old, but you’d still be able to relate.
Someone who has lived for over 20.000 years might as well be a demigod to someone who won’t even see their first century.

But I’m derailing myself.

There’s other timelines who point at different times…

This one says it’s around 18+

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_(unofficial)

It’s easier for everyone is Blizz sticks with 1 year here is 1 year there. Otherwise you open up a whole can of confusion.
It seems they have stuck with it as well.

And the cinematic for WoW (the first one) states it’s 4 years since the end of Warcraft III. And WoW is going on 14 years now, so that makes it 18.


PS: You can’t post links because you’re not at the right “trust level”.
You gotta grind forum XP now, to attain trust levels in order to post links, use GIFs, or embed videos.

I can’t either. But use the </> symbol, to paste in your link. Makes it stand out and then others can copy paste it into their browser easily.

Yeah, it’s a bit of a mess, really. Wowwiki tends to be far more outdated and lagging behind on Wowpedia, though. The Wowpedia unofficial timeline has a lot of work and reasoning to it, and builds the most on the official ones; it also quotes its sources and handles inconsistencies very neatly.

Both are unofficial though… But I don’t see the events of an expansion happening in less than 1-2 years…

Even less than that having the contents of two expansions squeezed into one year. That would be one exceedingly busy year for Azeroth!

There’s so many inconsistencies everywhere in any timeline that I’ve given up trying to follow any of them…
Take Vanessa VanCleef in Westfall for example… She’s shown as a child in the quest where you see Edwin VanCleef dying… Then fast forward 6 years and she’s suddenly an adult woman?

I’m just sticking with the WCIII —4years—> WoW —14years-------> Today

If I try to wrap my head around all the inconsistencies in the timelines my brain will implode…

Timey wimey wibbly wobbly, I guess. But personally, I trust Wowpedia’s timeline, which is based on World of Warcraft: Ultimate Visual Guide, updated and expanded.

You think you want High Elves but you actually don’t :wink:

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no we really do i think
high elves are what should have been the alliance race in tbc
but marketing team disagreed

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Obsessively sims High Elves!!!

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From memory “Each expansion happens in actually one year” is the official Blizzard answer. It is a particularly bad answer (or else all the characters are crossed with Speedy Gonzalez and the Bip Bip), and I’ve personally elected to ignore it in favor of “each expansion is as long as the irl time in which it occurs”. (That still make a mess of Bip Bip + End of the World every two years, but a tiny bit more reasonable.)

I read through a little bit more in Chronicles volume 3 last night, and it seems to match up rather well with Wowpedia’s timeline. At least as far as I’ve gotten through it.

Though one expansion taking place in only one year is Speedy Gonzales levels of ludicrous in my personal opinion.

The entire campaign in Northrend taking place in only one year? When you gotta take into account the fact that they actually sailed all the way and built several new fortresses before they even started marching towards the Wrathgate.

The entire Alliance and Horde warmachines must have been running on methamphetamine.

Read through some more of Chronicles volume 3 last night, and it seems (as far as I’ve gotten) that every expansion takes place in one year.
So it’s closer to the 11-15 year mark than 18.

But that’s ridiculously fast in my opinion. Because that means the Horde and Alliance used sailing ships to travel to Northrend, built brand spanking new castles with medieval construction methods and marched their armies on foot across an entire continent, all within a year.

Yeah, read some in Chronicles Volume 3 last night.

And it seems it’s closer to one expansion, one year.
But I agree with you that’s it’s stupidly fast.
As I’ve already written in this comment, (I’ll use the same example because I’m lazy.)
Alliance and Horde sailed to Northrend, built new castles with old timey building methods and marched their armies on foot across an entire continent. All within one year.

It’s just insane :face_with_raised_eyebrow:


EDIT: Realized I could have just quoted all three of you right after the other then write the same reply. Instead of typing basically the same thing three times.

I’m an idiot… That is all…

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Magic. And perhaps made of helium rocks. Its after all a world of teleporter tech.

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Greetings, How’s the discussion been going all? :smiley: I’m a little out of date, haven’t touched the forums and the thread in a while.

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Well i’ve heard we’re getting onto other sites to spread it aswell.

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Just came back after a few weeks of absence myself. Looks like people are discussing lore details and things that are relevant. Seems like the trolls are busy somewhere else. Perhaps they’re preparing for an upcoming regicide…

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What exactly is a regicide and what does it means?

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Regicide is a very specific term, at its most basic it means the act of killing a King, whether by assassination or as part of a ‘judicial’ process. Over time the term has been broadened, to include Queens, Emperors and other Absolute rulers.

Basically ‘Killing the Ruler’

Not sure how that applies in this context, what that’s what Regicide is.

Interestingly it is also both the name for the crime, and the name for the person who carries it out, in which it is fairly unique, in terms of how words work. ‘Homicide’ is the act of killing another person, we do not refer to the person doing the killing as a ‘Homicide’ though, likewise Infanticide and Genocide, Patricide, Fratricide and Matricide. The latter three still apply, but have fallen out of usage.

With Regicide however, in common parlance, the word both means the crime itself, the act of Regicide, and the -person- committing the crime, who is also classed as a Regicide.

Its basically a posh way of saying “Kingslayer”.

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I was talking about the act of regicide more than a person. The trolls (forum trolls) have been quiet, perhaps in preparation for bad things that might happen to them (the Zandali speaking ones) or the ones they love. The Alliance has suffered great losses, and it’s time the Horde gets to suffer a bit too. Anyways, it’s good to see the naysaying trolls take a break.

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As per the latest hotfix:

Players are now able to purchase Elixir of Tongues from Lizzi Liverzapper. Using and applying the potion will allow players to be able to understand the opposite faction.

So apparently faction identity is no big problem for Blizz now, even if you ignore Pandaren, Void Elves and Demonhunters that could speak cross-faction before. With Void Elves looking exactly as Blood Elves in armor, Nightborne looking almost exactly as Night Elves even without armor, Pandaren looking exactly the same on both factions and everyone being able to speak cross-faction, I don’t think there is any reason left against playable High Elves, who are already Alliance-aligned both in-game and in-lore.

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I have a question since this is an english forum what does your name means on english and also i agree with your post. :slight_smile:

How exactly does talking to the opposite faction hurts faction identity again?

Actually, scratch that. How exactly is being able to talk to the opposite faction comparable in any way to giving a race which looks exactly the same to the other faction?

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